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nick replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime yeah so external drives used to ship with all the little jumpers off (ID=0) and if you plugged that into your Sun4 it wouldn't boot and then you'd call the service department ... so they wanted to make the main disk some other ID but everyone assumes the boot volume is sd0 ... so some evil genius came up with this plan.

The *good* external drives had a little pushbutton wheel thingy on the back to change their ID :-)

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

SunOS 4.1.4 says it can't possibly be the year 2023: "WARNING: preposterous time in filesystem -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!"

sorry SunOS, there's nothing i can do to fix 2023.

zarbet replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime I booted a NeXTstation in Sep 2022 and just had to check whether I tweeted this preposterous message or tooted it. Didn't know SunOS does it too!
Thank you for the swizzle table, I'm sure I'll lose it but it's useful to me anyway.

spmatich :blobcoffee: replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime I agree with the sun engineers. Why is something with a 20MHz CPU and 1gb of spinning rust (probs not the original, much more likely to ve 500MB) even powered on in 2023?

nick replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime The best bit about this message is that I guarantee you there are still Sun4s in production somewhere.

Zsolt replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime yours was the best account on Twitter, and now it’s the best account on Mastodon. Entertaining, and educational. Thank you for existing.

bob replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime I've been putting off replacing the nvram in both my ipx machines :(

Hubert Figuière replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime they never thought it would run 30 years later...

Tim Makarios replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime
One day it'll be 2023.

1994: Bah! That's preposterous!

Reminds me of this comment in leapsecs.txt in libtai:

"Note for parsers: Negative leap seconds will probably never happen, but the year 10000 will happen. Please don't contribute to the Y10K problem."

cr.yp.to/libtai.html

Andre replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Does SunOS 4 still complain about a preposterous time after you've set the system clock to 2023?

Johannes Silverfox 🦊 replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Just seeing that terminal font made me think Solaris..I think it’s still being used in 11 or whatever they’re on now?

Kevin Karhan :verified: replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime it's pre-#Y2K compliant and AFAIK #SunOS that low doesn't even support #ZFS...

Jan Rychter replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime TBF, it isn't wrong. These are preposterous times.

Jan Rychter replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime That font brings back memories. I can still viscerally feel the slowness!

James Henstridge replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime This is probably the code triggering the warning:

github.com/csrg/original-bsd/b

It seems to be checking for dates too far in the past (before 1975, by the look) rather than too far in the future. I wonder if it is reading a zeroed sector on the disk where a unix timestamp would be in a running system?

echopapa ☑️ replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime mhm, seems this SunOS won't run until timer overflow...

Keep on and wish you best luck!

SerTapTap (She/Her)🎮🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime haha, I forget the name but there's at least one dos game that if you launch after a certain date it starts up with "YEAAHHHH STILL PLAYING (game) in 2023!!!"

retroprom replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime You can probably patch it! 🤔​

ottO replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Honestly just kudos for Sun for getting ‘preposterous' in there
#WOTD

The Last Psion | Alex replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Wonder what the last non-preposterous date is according to SunOS?

catsynth / amanda c replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime well, SunOS isn't wrong. It is a bit of a preposterous time.

Chris Petrilli replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime this is absurd... 2023 is ludicrous time, not preposterous.

gkrnours replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime yesterday I learned there is a game called outrun 2019 for the sega genesis

Akamdman203 replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime at what point does it start showing that kind of error? like what date does it start? 2020?

mhoye replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime It's fascinating - and probably a warning sign for people with long-lived systems - that systems increasingly won't reboot cleanly if they don't believe the date.

mhoye replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Whoever is running that box is putting a lot of effort into keeping it alive. That "ZULUSCSI" vendor reference refers to an elaborate SD card reader that is pretending to be a SCSI drive for host systems that antedates USB or any other kind of hotpluggable peripherals.

penryu replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime @ajcc A BSD friend of mine pointed out that this is ancient code and exists in some form to this day in OpenBSD and possibly other BSDs.

github.com/openbsd/src/blob/ma

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

setting the time zone. what the heck is US/Pacific-New?

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

now i need to set a user ID. trust me this is a unique number

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Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

OpenWindows! this seems to be running pretty well. SunOS 4.1.4 is a better match for this system than Solaris 2.5.1.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

now if only i could figure out why it is not displaying in color...

Joel Michael replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime does it actually have a colour framebuffer installed?

Tube❄️Time replied to Joel

@jpm GOOD CALL. for some reason i thought Solaris 2.5 showed up in color but it surely did not. this is an MG2 analog framebuffer which only does 1-bit output.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

turns out i do not have a color framebuffer, just a plain old MG2 which is 1-bit. ok.

Joe Cooper 💾 replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime US/Pacific-New-Draft-Final-Final2-Edited.doc

Karl Gutwin replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime It’s a proposed “Pacific Presidential Election Time” from 1989 that would extend daylight saving time on the west coast on presidential election years past the date of the election.

github.com/moment/moment-timez

congress.gov/bill/101st-congre

Mark Eichin replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime I used an xterm font that started as a pixel-scrape of that console font, converted to an X10 font, then to an old-style X11 font, then upgraded to BDF... Eventually -sun-serif-medium-r-normal-* was released as a legitimate copy :-)

Dustin replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime the sort of thing that I will say out loud in the lab, “and this is why I have gray hair!” 🤣

Norman Wilson replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Yes! I remember that more clearly now.

echopapa ☑️ replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime as far as I remember this is also on the SPARCstation 2, SLC, ELC, IPC and IPX

ClearSkyImaging replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime
On the SunOS/Solaris CAD systems I was responsible for, we used to set the 1st external drive as the boot device, and load the CAD software on it, using the internal disk drive for home areas and storage.
it made updating the OS and S/W a breeze by simply swapping the external drive.
We used to 'upgrade' the OS and software when the users were on a coffee break

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