@Gargron "We didn't ignore the warning, it was behind a paywall."

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It would be funny... but also terrifying.

Copyright is entirely the wrong tool to go against AI to be honest.
It's already an out of control, over the top institution geared towards sustaining the middlemen instead of the actual creators, so if it is adjusted for AI... it will also be enabled to go against "learning", fair use, etc etc.

Handling AI needs a completely new approach imho.

@Gargron Ugh talk about a boring dystopia. If we're all going out from climate change, I want to see at least one robot uprising before it happens.

@Gargron Yeah but the Butlerian Civil Lawsuit does not quite have the same ring to it 😆

@Gargron The Butlerian Jihad was actually just a series of drawn out and particularly ugly litigations and everyone decided after the verdict ruled in favor of Disney that they never wanted to deal with the issue again.

@Gargron and, I guess one could even instigate such a thing by poisoning all the major LLMs with the best-defended IP (Marvel, Star Wars) from the most litigious companies (Disney, Sony, etc.). How one would go about doing that, I don't know. But, they're being pretty wanton about what they feed the models, so maybe it's not all that hard to do.

If one were so inclined, of course. Not that I would ever wish harm on the AI.

@Gargron Much AIdo about nothing?

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Or paperclips.

@Gargron Nobody predicted AI writing copyright violaton claims for AI-generated content

@Gargron As much as I hate copyright law, if that is what it takes to restrict robotics and AI from replacing us, so be it. At least once, copyright law will have served a purpose for the common good.

@Gargron more of a Vogon outcome I’d say…

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@Gargron if I remember my lore correctly, Warhammer 40k includes the rise of AI, its corruption and damage to humanity resulting in an AI ban. Hence the over reliance on human input even for pathfinding in the far future

@Gargron Ironic indeed, but well you can't just go about and steal knowledge. The world is not free to steal and resell... it is very simple.
If you buy a book you need to pay for it, if you go to a library you need a subscription for access. If you use someone's copyrighted or patented ideas, then please pay for these.
Why do they even think they can get away with this...

@Gargron @metagrrrl I mean it really was basically about IP violations, just the IP in question was the like human genome

@Gargron This is about how it always works... the Ewoks always win 😉

Nice that you mentioned this parallel now. I recently finished reading the first book of the Dune series. I'll start on the next one soon.

@Gargron first they banned the use of atomics, next will be legal briefs. dunno how they react to shields tho…

@Gargron Had only someone thought to copyright the strategies of war.

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@Gargron The "Dune Act"

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Ahhh… the Butlerian Copyright Jihad…

This is too real now.

@Gargron I'm thinking sabotage. If enough of us put enough effort into prompt engineering we can get all the LLMs to reply to all complex questions (answers > 4) with "A suffusion of yellow."

@Gargron I've yet to see convincing fiction or hypethesis on how #AI could be banned or blocked.

Historically, we had not managed to block any software. ANY. Somehow we'll restrict software with the highest incentives that ever existed?

@Gargron your employee @Claire uses ChatGPT to write code for Mastodon, also steals my own code without proper attribution as required by my MIT license. Then posts exposing this fiasco are deleted by someone w/ control of the Mastodon organization account: https://elonsucks.org/@adam/110811483099354406

Of course you would laugh about AI & copyright violation 🙄

@Gargron AI is used financially, therefore super power countries are dependent on it. Dependency on money will keep AI from being banned.

An all out robot war has been predicted by many.

Unfortunately, all robots are under the control of humans at the moment.

So is it really a robot war, where we can blame AI, or rather an intelligently inclined humanitarian World War?

@Gargron anything but the butlerian jihad