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Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

“But the most noticeable missteps stem not from the news pages but from the editorial column. For it is here that readers find out what the paper thinks about the great issues of the day.”

That's what they wrote at their second centennial, two years ago, listing their ‘worst errors of judgment’;

theguardian.com/media/2021/may

Two decades of platforming TERF rhetoric was not on the list, and still isn’t.

#DontPayTheGuardian
#TransRightsAreHumanRights

1 Apr 2023 at 17:24 | Open on ngmx.com
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Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

They are making some progress on old harms, though;

"The owner of the Guardian has issued an apology for the role the newspaper’s founders had in transatlantic slavery and announced a decade-long programme of restorative justice.”

theguardian.com/news/2023/mar/

Point by point explainer;

theguardian.com/news/2023/mar/

And a long read by David Olusoga;

theguardian.com/news/ng-intera

Includes a fund for reparations, although £10m isn't a whole lot for its intended scope.

#Reparations
#DontPayTheGuardian

They are making some progress on old harms, though;

"The owner of the Guardian has issued an apology for the role the newspaper’s founders had in transatlantic slavery and announced a decade-long programme of restorative justice.”

theguardian.com/news/2023/mar/

1 Apr 2023 at 17:36 | Open on ngmx.com
Alexander Hay

@sindarina It's easy to apologise on behalf of dead people who got away 'Scott' free with mistreating other deaf people.

8 Apr 2023 at 22:05 | Open on mastodon.social
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

Every now and then, when I tell people to stop paying for The Guardian until they cease platforming TERF rhetoric, they object, claiming that left-leaning news should be supported.

Well, here’s the latest results of their tactics, in terms of revenue;

"The Guardian’s parent company made record revenues for its news business last year as the group hired new staff and pushed for further international growth.”

theguardian.com/media/2023/jul

Don't pay The Guardian, folks. If you want more detail, scroll up ⬆️

#DontPayTheGuardian

Every now and then, when I tell people to stop paying for The Guardian until they cease platforming TERF rhetoric, they object, claiming that left-leaning news should be supported.

Well, here’s the latest results of their tactics, in terms of revenue;

"The Guardian’s parent company made record revenues for its news business last year as the group hired new staff and pushed for further international growth.”
30 Jul 2023 at 19:16 | Open on ngmx.com
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

The Guardian also updated its editorial code this week, for the first time since 2011, so naturally I wondered if that contained any improvements;

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

Item 12, “Discrimination and incitement to hatred”, states the following;

“i) Journalists must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual’s race, colour, ethnicity, nationality, religion, age, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, or to any physical or mental illness.”

I wonder if that applies to their opinion pieces, though, and they asterisk for exceptions when it's ‘in the public interest’.

We’ll see.

#DontPayTheGuardian

The Guardian also updated its editorial code this week, for the first time since 2011, so naturally I wondered if that contained any improvements;

theguardian.com/commentisfree/

Item 12, “Discrimination and incitement to hatred”, states the following;

30 Jul 2023 at 19:24 | Open on ngmx.com
I said too much :blobfoxdead: replied to Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@sindarina

However, by linking to the Grauniad you are giving them clicks.
Dump the Guardian

Avoid this by changing:

https:// www.theguardian.com/<restofurl>

to

https:// www.dumptheguardian.com/<restofurl>
e.g.

dumptheguardian.com/commentisf

30 Jul 2023 at 20:03 | Open on tech.lgbt
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective replied to I said too much :blobfoxdead:

@essjay I am aware of its existence, and don't care for it. See also this part of the thread you're replying to; ngmx.com/@sindarina/1100019478

30 Jul 2023 at 20:08 | Open on ngmx.com
I said too much :blobfoxdead: replied to Sindarina, Edge Case Detective
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective replied to I said too much :blobfoxdead:

@essjay 1) Their reasoning revolves around Jeremy Corbyn and Julian Assange. I don't give a fuck about either of them.

2) They advocate using screenshot over linking, which is an accessibility nightmare.

3) I link directly to the source, when I quote the source, or don't link to it at all. Using some third party that uses the Internet Archive, does not help me in the slightest.

If you want to use that sort of thing, be my guest, but the goal here is to get people to stop paying them, not linking to them when they have coverage that is either good, or deserving of criticism.

Source for the above;

theguardian.fivefilters.org/ho

@essjay 1) Their reasoning revolves around Jeremy Corbyn and Julian Assange. I don't give a fuck about either of them.

2) They advocate using screenshot over linking, which is an accessibility nightmare.

3) I link directly to the source, when I quote the source, or don't link to it at all. Using some third party that uses the Internet Archive, does not help me in the slightest.

30 Jul 2023 at 20:27 | Open on ngmx.com
Jeri Dansky

@sindarina I stopped paying for The Guardian because of their TERF rhetoric. I hesitated a bit, because it does so much good reporting, but I decided the TERF stuff was a red line for me.

If the new editorial code actually means no more TERF rhetoric, I'll gladly resume paying. But I wonder how that will happen unless there's a change in the staff.

31 Jul 2023 at 1:34 | Open on sfba.social
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective replied to Jeri

@jeridansky Yeah, they would need to own up to it, in public, before I reconsider, and probably fire some of the people on their UK staff.

31 Jul 2023 at 3:31 | Open on ngmx.com
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