@lightsong @luckytran look to indigenous wisdom. There's a reason that 80% of the world's remaining biodiversity is protected by indigenous nations, and it's not because they're too stupid to industrialize. They may not have been technologically advanced, but so many of their cultural values have sustainability baked in because they watched and learned the patterns of nature and passed down that knowledge to avoid precisely this kind of apocalypse. There's a lot we can learn from them