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Thekingoflorda

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer not quit, with framework you can decide to choose no storage, with steamdeck your picked the. 64 gb version, after which you lost the better screen.

AudraTran :debian:

@thekingoflorda @frameworkcomputer You said "not quit" but then didn't actually contradict anything I said.

Thekingoflorda

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer then I misunderstood you, I thought you meant that valve also allowed you to bring your own storage instead of buying from valve.

AudraTran :debian:

@thekingoflorda No, sorry. I meant that Valve also charges disproportionate amounts for storage upgrades, like Apple.

curtmack

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer I'm not sure the Steam Deck is directly comparable to the Apple situation, since each storage upgrade has other nontrivial changes (64 GB is eMMC, 256 GB is NVME, 512 GB is NVME + has a better screen)

It would be nice to be able to buy a Steam Deck with no storage and supply your own. There's probably a nonzero cost to supporting users who think they're skilled enough to install an NVME drive, but really aren't. But it would still be a good option.

curtmack

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer Mind you, I haven't done the research on how much each upgrade costs at fair market value, and I definitely wouldn't be shocked to learn they're still price gouging. I'm just saying the difference between the 64 GB and 256 GB models is more than "196 GB."

AudraTran :debian:

@curtmack @frameworkcomputer The "better screen" is not an objective position. More of a preference (not mine). And both displays are actually quite bad.

You can buy a 1TB (double the highest available storage) for ~$100. The difference between 64GB SD and 512GB is $250 in price, with no other appreciable differences.

Also, while I respect the logistics of assembly lines, I would appreciate the exclusion of the (bad) charging brick and a proportionate decrease in price.

curtmack

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer Fair; I don't have any electronics with really good screens (besides my phone I guess), so I don't have a lot to compare the Deck's screen with.

As a general disclaimer, I paid for part of my Steam Deck with $250 in Steam Bux (thanks to Dota 2 cosmetics), so I didn't compare many options. If you're actually paying for 100% of your device's cost (and don't specifically want the Linux/SteamOS experience out of the box), there are much better options.

Ian

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer that is actually not true. In the video Linus talks about upgradable storage. This can’t be done with Apple Devices but you can upgrade/replace the storage in the SteamDeck. Framework sold those SSDs a few times exactly for that purpose

AudraTran :debian:

@avercromxd I mean "the same thing" as in charging wildly disproportionate prices for storage than it costs them.

Sleepyhart

@AudraTran @frameworkcomputer Very true. There's no reason they couldn't make the steam deck's SSD user replacable apart from protecting their bottom line

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