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myrmepropagandist

Oh no!

China gonna get us!

Scary scary--

hold up. what is this "right axis" and "left axis" stuff?

(see next tweet)

26 comments
Ben O'Matic

@yuki2501 @futurebird

I mean, the stats themselves are OK, but dang, that dataviz. Whoever designed it was either incompetent or malicious.

Reminds me of the stuff you'd see on Fox News.

Dr. Jorge Caballero

@futurebird if trends continue, they'll catch up in the year ~3000 😱

If climate change hasn't sizzled or drowned us

JustAFrog

@futurebird I know plenty of people who simply wouldn't understand anything other than "highest line spends most".

A lot of misinformation is like that. The truth is one step further out, and that's just far enough that most won't reach it.

Biggles

@futurebird to make things more complicated, don't forget about Purchasing Power Parity..
There's an excellent excellent presentation by Perun over on Youtube (professional defence economics analyst)

Ignoring the 'omg teh reds' alarmism, the Chinese are getting a lot more bang for their buck.
youtu.be/mH5TlcMo_m4

CrazyMyra

@futurebird Similar game being played on climate change stats. The US and China are neck and neck for the dishonour of "world's biggest polluter", but you wouldn't know that from the graphs in Western media.

starling

@futurebird the scales are off by a factor of 2 as well. everything except the US should be squashed to 50% height

TripTilt /// tt

@futurebird the EU is so far off and didn't even fit on the list or would have needed a "middle axis'?

rugk

@_tt_ @futurebird it is about countries, so likely only a single EU country could be listed. Don't know how much all EU countries spending together would for into that.

Inga stands with Ukraine

@futurebird and even that one makes China seem larger (compared to US) than it actually is, because the lower half is stretched 2x compared to the upper half (with 50B per tick instead of 100B per tick).
Making it look as if China is over half of US now, and close to the lowest value of US on this graph, while it's actually one third of US (~270 vs ~800), and a bit over half of US lowest value (under 500 in 1998)

Alakest

@futurebird Both say "Federal Reserve Board of St. Louis" - is this where they *both* came from?

I ask because I want to know who floated the bullsh*t graph: the Fed, or someone *mangling* a thing the Fed provided and didn't own up to what they did?

I don't love the Fed by a long shot, but that's a sort of lie I wouldn't suspect them of handling so clumsily.

Space Catitude 🚀

@futurebird

Edward Tufte would NOT approve this graph!

That's really bad. :welp:

Paul Cantrell

@futurebird
This is from the…Federal Reseve Bank of St. Louis? Why are they committing data graphic crimes?!?

myrmepropagandist

@inthehands

I think that's just the data source. The graph was from a tweet.

Paul Cantrell

@futurebird Oh thank goodness. Somebody belongs in Data Science Jail, anyway.

DELETED

@futurebird Ignoring the flaws of the graph, this still isn't a reason to be concerned. They gave more than thrice the population of the US. Them spending a tiny more still means they spend far less per capita.

But, anything to be xenophobic against China, right? (not you, but rather the creator of the graph, just to be clear)

standev

@allenstenhaus military isn’t exactly a service that gets provided on a per capita basis, so I’m not sure why you would weight it that way. Am I missing something?

Chris of All Trades

@futurebird Just make a bottom/top axis for years to even it out.

серафими многоꙮчитїи

@futurebird wow, even with your hint this is so misleading. I looked at both axes and thought "no these units match" and checked really carefully, until it finally hit me. That's not even misleading, it's a graphical lie, displaying an intersection (one of the things we learn to treat as significant on a graph) where there is none.

I was looking for something sneaky and this was too blatant to notice 😳

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