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@ombremad : Chrome die-hard fans are mostly tech-savy developers. I’m talking to them (which is my core audience on Mastodon)

People which have the education to understand that Google is a problem but, yet, uses Google tools all the time.

Yes, those people, the geeks, us. We are the problems.

The people who don’t know which browser they are using? They rely on us, they are using what we give to them. We can’t blame them.

21 Jul 2023 at 22:11 | Open on mamot.fr
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Yoann Aubry

@ploum @ombremad the problem is the monopoly on devices and the lack of regulation on telemetry.

22 Jul 2023 at 4:28 | Open on framapiaf.org
x0r

@yo @ploum @ombremad Not to mention a serious lack of software diversity. Web standards have become way too complex. Making a new rendering engine work at all is already a tall order, so I don't even want to think about the work needed to make it fast. That means it is unlikely that we'll see a third rendering engine emerge anytime soon. The fact that even Microsoft gave up is saying something.

22 Jul 2023 at 6:41 | Open on mamot.fr
Lord
@x0r @yo @ploum @ombremad i would'nt be so pessimistic about that.

Servo is on (new) track to become a viable engine (now that mozilla isn't the leader anymore).
But my hopes are now going toward libweb and its Ladybird browser which starts to render webpages quite well.

iirc there is a third new engine but i don't remember its name (it was mobile first).
@x0r @yo @ploum @ombremad i would'nt be so pessimistic about that.

Servo is on (new) track to become a viable engine (now that mozilla isn't the leader anymore).
22 Jul 2023 at 7:45 | Open on pleroma.lord.re
xavi92

@x0r @yo @ploum @ombremad I agree the modern web is near to impossible to catch up with, with JavaScript and its countless APIs mostly to blame. This is why I suggested a reasonable middle ground between Gopher/Gemini and the modern web:

xavi.privatedns.org/blog/small

Because of the stable requirements and much lower complexity, such proposal would allow the free software community to come up with multiple, co-existing implementations, similarly to Gopher and Gemini.

23 Jul 2023 at 10:13 | Open on fosstodon.org
acute_distress

@ploum @ombremad there were 4 geeks who out their names on that proposal.

23 Jul 2023 at 9:06 | Open on mastodon.nz
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