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Jeremy Kun

@unexpectedteapot "seems disingenuous" or "the authors are naive" is a FAR cry from "IS lying" and "Google is making a concerted effort to kill ad blockers."

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unexpectedteapot

@j2kun So you don't think Manifest V3 plus a vendor lock-in standard for websites add up to a plausible motivation of restricting ad-block?

Either way, the repercussions of this are far more reaching than just affecting ad-block. The HN comment section I previously linked has some insightful comments.

Jeremy Kun

@unexpectedteapot I believe Google will continue to enshittify everything. But knowing Google, this has all the hallmarks of a small group of engineers with a well-intentioned project that is way too early stage to determine if it will land.

Mark Crocker

@j2kun @unexpectedteapot #Chrome had #GreaseMonkey built in, but later locked it down to the point where only scripts on the Play store can be practically used (with some developer exceptions). Now it seems likely that Manifest V3 will break it entirely... enshittification in action.

One thing I really miss is the #Platypus extension (on #Firefox) that allowed simple page edits to be saved as #GreaseMonkey scripts. Sure, the Lizard extension has the edit features, but not the save.

Andrew

@j2kun they are literally an ad company. What could they possible be doing besides trying to kill ad blockers

Sven Slootweg

@j2kun If Google - and certainly Chromium - folks wanted the benefit of the doubt, they shouldn't have been spending the past decade giving people every reason not to do so

Sven Slootweg

@j2kun And I say this as someone who has *repeatedly* tried to engage in (technical, on-point!) discussion with Chromium devs fronting shitty proposals like this and just getting blocked for the attempt

Jeremy Kun

@joepie91 Not asking anyone to give Google the benefit of the doubt, just not to mislead in their "tl;dr"s

Sven Slootweg

@j2kun It's not "misleading". It's drawing conclusions based on past behaviour, and the post very likely says exactly what the author intended.

Asking for those conclusions to be downgraded absolutely *is* asking people to give Google the benefit of the doubt.

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