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programmers are always posting like "worked on tracking down an issue with a Flurble deployment for twelve hours. the problem wasn't in Flurble at all - it was in the Gumbies install. It turns out if you install Gumbies 3.0 over Gumbies 2.7 and don't do a cache flush on all the client spiders they'll get stuck in the crystal maze." then you look up Gumbies and the site is one of those scroll scroll scroll types with one sentence per page, like

"GUMBIES is a lean, expressive sharding sandcube for testing and deploying large scale Woodchips playgrounds.

GUMBIES automates and streamlines away watersliding phases, meaning your team can get right to the chipping.

See why Microsoft, OpenAI and Bloingo have embraced GUMBIES in their Woodchips workflows."

and you get to the bottom and you're like I want this I guess but I still don't know what it is

242 comments
MilesMcBain

@sc_griffith had a really happy moment a few years back when an AWS rep came to our work to try and sell us on kubernetes. It had a similar kind of all hype everywhere but no idea of its substance from my perspective. Once he started getting into it I just felt this huge sense of relief wash over me as I realised: I can go my whole career and never have to touch this crap.

rastilin

@milesmcbain @sc_griffith

Oh yes, Kubernetes. Does it use Docker? It can, but actually Docker is now depreciated. 👍 Now it uses "containerd". 🙄

This stuff is a parody of itself.

DeerFloat

@sc_griffith sharded shardless microserver architecture

Susanna

@sc_griffith Your description reminds me of a short piece of speculative fiction I wrote inspired by the installation process for software I was working on at the time.
blog.superflippy.net/2015/11/i

Log 🪵

@sc_griffith All the *real* documentation is at the opengumbies.gitnexus.io fork.

xinit ☕

@sc_griffith You just have to install the compatibility library Bloingo released, then compile Gumbies 3.1 development version.

Perfectly intuitive.

Air Adam

@sc_griffith I feel this right in my core. TELL ME WHAT THE DAMN LIBRARY DOES!

Klaus Stein

@sc_griffith This. It is so great we don't need to tell you what it is for!

altreus™

@sc_griffith god I hate those sites. Infinite web space given over to zero information.

WHAT

DO

YOU

DO

otto

@sc_griffith that script of a movie? One that will have 3 people in the audience rolling on the floor laughing...only to be trampled by the rest of audience fleeing the theater.

James Akers

@sc_griffith
Educational experiences all around- I have certainly read similar things with more lingo words than not- it's like a secret language about computer languages! The deep wikipedia dive sometimes yields informative results
@jenn

🦨💾💿scamp:belovedwifi:||🏪📺
@sc_griffith this was my entire experience making this instance run
you're an artist and a visionary always check your client spiders- add this script to your scroll of quantum resonance to keep their heartbeats regular on a monthly basis
silver

@sc_griffith the immense truth of this entire post is both very painful and incredibly hilarious lmao
captures the exact feeling of the last... i think three times i looked up something intending to use it on my website. "that sure was a sleek and flashy website but hell if i know what the software actually -does- or if it's what i'm looking for at all..."

mk30

@sc_griffith @oldskirt if i can't figure out what it is (or what it's for) by the bottom of the single-scroll site, i just give up. and that's why i don't have a job in programming lol.

bondolo

@sc_griffith You are lucky if GUMBIES has any kind of a description. Often just a page of release notes for most recent version explaining the how new planar extrusions module replaces obsolete differential elastic sweeper. Unfortunately, you suspect, but can't confirm, that product you were intending to use it with requires the now obsolete sweeper.

Or GUMBIES just has an empty Readme.MD, last commit was 7 months ago and there were only two releases, most recent 3 years ago and 4 open old PRs.

Siguza

@sc_griffith uhm excuse you, those people would never call themselves programmers, their title contains at least 7 words that aren't in any dictionary, and ends in an acronym.

Bitterseeds

@sc_griffith I'd pay good money to see Annald come back in a Gumbie suit to kill us all just after the rise of the machines. 🤣

🇺🇦 haxadecimal

@sc_griffith I worked at a tech startup during the dot-com implosiom. The company next door cratered. We went over to the auction preview. They had a 24-page company brochure with beautiful photographs and illustrations on very high quality paper, with translucent inserts and all kinds of amazing stuff, and after reading it I still had no f#$&ing clue what they did.
1/

🇺🇦 haxadecimal

@sc_griffith If you can't instantly tell from a web site just what a company does, or what its products do, then it is utter bullshit, no matter how many high profile endorsements they have.
2/2

Mike Knell

@sc_griffith @fanf I wish I could pinpoint the moment when OSS project websites changed from "hacked together but generally information-dense even if the information is a bit odd sometimes" to "before even writing a single line of code we need a logo, a focus-groupped name and a website with lots of short sentences in large text with big gaps between them".

David Gerard

@m @sc_griffith @fanf isn't that approximately just whether they're corporate?

Nathan Williams

@m @sc_griffith @fanf And the logos of the seven companies who have happened to download and maybe run the stuff in a test instance somewhere.

Zeh Fernando

@m @sc_griffith @fanf really miss the "a bit odd sometimes" side of the web in general.

Matt Moehr

@sc_griffith lol. I love Gumbies! Don’t tell me you’re one of those Bicep CSS proponents?

weakly catlike intelligence

@sc_griffith this toot should win the pulitzer prize for literature

lucy_who

@sc_griffith This feels like my entire working life…

Christopher Mims

@sc_griffith why is this the funniest thing I've read since that fake Guy Fieri flavortown menu

8r3nt gu14n0w5k1

@sc_griffith Is this a thread, or a post-modern collaborative novel? Exciting!

Alan Brookland

@sc_griffith @paco Why do people do this?
Every project should start with a quick, jargon free, description of the user problem you are trying to solve.
If you can't do that, maybe think about whether your fancy new framework or whatever is actually needed.

Alan Brookland

@sc_griffith @paco Also, when you're naming your new thing, I know you WANT to name it after the toy elephant you had as a kid, but consider giving it a name with some relevance to what the thing actually does.

Raphael Mattos

@sc_griffith I can't wait to start getting job offers that require 5 years of experience in Gumbies and Flurble, so I can add 10 mb of npm packages to the project and be forced to write YAML files to make anything work, while running a huge memory hungry development server.

Why all that, you ask? Well, to launch YiNYAF (YiNYAF Is Not Yet Another Framework)!

Aquiel ‘Aqi’ Draco

@sc_griffith

Sounds like an actual playground with a big sand box and long twisty slide that makes you always land on your behind

~

@sc_griffith > the client spiders get stuck in the crystal maze

You know I think I've played that video game

Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

@sc_griffith

The main solution to these programming problems is to ask anyone that adds external code to the project to be shot in a body part of their choice by the naval artillery of their choice

Naval artillery can solve most problems a jetpack can't solve

wmealing
@sc_griffith What?? you're still using gumbies, you need to update your dependancies, rebuild your bun, jsx your react and all the usual stuff then update to use the new POKIE_PRICKLE_AND_GOO , so you can walk through a wall if you wanted toooooo 🎵🎵🎵
Eamon

@sc_griffith meanwhile I'd just have seen a toot boosted in my timeline like:

We're excited to release GUMBIES 3.0! 🎉

🔹 Entirely new sharding engine built with Xoombly ⛱️
🔹 Woodchips can now be floppy or lite with WindScreen support 🪵
🔹 Quizzical playgrounds with no extra components needed 👺

djsumdog
Throw it all in the woodchipper
Lawler Hix :verified:

@sc_griffith Purchase the Omega Super Premium God Lord Galactic Emperor package and not only do you support a Free and Open Sourced Product Independent Family Company but you also get priority customer support!

zardoz.el

@sc_griffith
"my amazon retroencabulator has decreased its througput in relation to the AWS RetroflexibleErgotismDefender, meaning a cost overhead of 5%" is what most fucking cloud shit sounds like

Tertle950

@sc_griffith
i wasn't born early enough to experience or remember when the web was simple, but that doesn't stop me from missing it!!!

craig

@sc_griffith The other day my friend asked me "i'm not sure exactly what it is you do." I'll send him this so he knows.

Tom Carroll

@sc_griffith I cannot put into words how happy this post has made me.

Mr. Completely

@sc_griffith ^^^^ me as an OG web dev gone management working on spinning up a new personal site just for funsies

Amos

@sc_griffith This was exactly my experience trying to get up to speed with modern web frameworks with a previous background of only basic JS, html, and css as it existed in the early 2000s prior to the existence of the major UI JS frameworks. The website for like every new technology has so many marketing words without actually telling you what the thing is or why you would or wouldn’t want to use it.

peb

@sc_griffith i want my team to get right to the chipping

eno2001

@sc_griffith 🤣🤣🤣 Stop screen scraping my searches please.

llewelly

@sc_griffith
in software development, a true understanding of woodchips workflows requires becoming one with the woodchipper.

(this is why I left software)

Dima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱

@sc_griffith lately in the news OpenGeVALT LLC (Open Generalized Variationally Linear Transformers, LLC) has embraced GUMBIES to secure its second round of FooBar (Meta)funding

Steve

@sc_griffith true dat. I have an OpenShift error around an "untolerated taint". My preemption is apparently unhelpful, and I must seek a preemption victim for the incoming pod. To paraphrase Barack Obama: "come on, man."

indyradio

@sc_griffith there is no standard lexicon, and pointless novelty

drew Mochak
@sc_griffith I still don't know what Salesforce does.
ENIGMATICO :heartbleed:

@sc_griffith@mathstodon.xyz Thats what they get for using Gumbies, which is proprietary. Had they used Moomba instead, which is open source and maintained by a passionate team who dedicates their free time to maintaining it, this wouldnt had happen.

(Then you look into the Moomba's website and you notice that the project is backed by at least two major corpos)

Nina Felwitch :v_trans:

@sc_griffith that is exactly what being a programmer feels like today.
Can we please go back to the time when we wrote simple lines of code, had the code compile and then it just did what we asked it to do?
No Furble, Gumbies, Crystal Mazes or Bloingo. Just you, a text editor and the compiler.

Mx. Eddie R

@sc_griffith
I dunno about that conclusion. When I reach the end of a page of vapid tech marketspeak, I usually feel confused and maybe a little dirty, but not like I need the thing.

Ashi Helvetica

@sc_griffith so many years wasted fixing crystal maze related issues

:bun: Stellar 🇫🇷

@sc_griffith@mathstodon.xyz this shit is my daily struggle i'm grabbing my monitor yelling at them WHAT DO YOUR SOFTWARE DO

kuteboiCoder

@sc_griffith@mathstodon.xyz

Shit like this is probably why there ain't that many tech entrepreneurs outside of the English-speaking world

kuteboiCoder

@sc_griffith@mathstodon.xyz

inb4 muh racism, obviously Indian-diaspora #tech #billionaires are fluent in English. They were raised here for the most part

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