@turboquokka @JessTheUnstill Tbh this all makes me think this entire discussion just makes us look bad.

We want and need allies and acceptance and all of this just works against that.

I'm not down with whatever this is.

Feel free to carry on and confuse cis and other trans folks who are allies or may become one.

Feel free to push them away with this lack of logic and calling them out as wrong while admitting they aren't wrong.