@evan However, they now will come and are coming. Also, besides them, that we know what makes their agenda up to today (I see no change upcoming eventhough, in the absolute I want to keep space towards sthg better, that’s not what drives them now) there is nothing that prevents any other instance to have bad practice and behavior.

So, corporations, or not, we should find ways to improve the robustness of our interactions. I think Hubzilla had quite a strong model, I don’t know to which extent.