"We never saw any of this ADHD or autism stuff when I was young!"
You never saw any photos of the surface of Mars back then either, but I'm pretty sure it was still there the whole time
"We never saw any of this ADHD or autism stuff when I was young!" You never saw any photos of the surface of Mars back then either, but I'm pretty sure it was still there the whole time 102 comments
@TonyJWells @farcaller @Garwboy "if on the red planet they're all socialist... who are they stealing from?" [quote] @marcorobotics @TonyJWells @Garwboy there are two primary resources on Mars: water tankies and oxygen tankies. And the red faction always has the volition for control. Whoops, wrong franchise. Can we make an off-spin about SCP now? @TonyJWells @marcorobotics @Garwboy this. This is why we can't have nice things. Humans find a new shiny toy and it ends up with another Reality Dysfunction. @Garwboy Natürlich war es da, aber zu dieser Zeit kamen diese Menschen in den Nischen der Gesellschaft irgend wie immer unter! Nur hat sich der wirtschaftliche Wandel, der absolut auf maximaler Ausbeutung seinen Bestand hat ,keine dieser Nischen mehr vorhanden ist! Menschen dürfen demnach nicht mehr so sein, wie sie sind, werden schon in der Grundschule in die Muster der Zukunft gepresst ,wer da außen vor bleibt. wird letztendlich medizinisch ausgeschaltet! @MysticaRose @Garwboy Nicht Betroffene können das nicht verstehen, weil ihnen der Zugang fehlt! @Dillerjohann Schönen Gruß von mir: Ich fühl mich gelabelt und mit Infos versorgt 1000x besser als vor 40 Jahren in der Schule!! @Garwboy @Garwboy I'm glad it is more 'common' now, despite meeting the occasional neuro-typical person saying it's all a trend. I was finally diagnosed last year and my daughter this year. My son will be soon too and at least they can grow up in a world less alien and with a better understanding. Perhaps even a little more compassion and empathy. @analogfusion@mastodon.art @Garwboy@ohai.social the fact stuff wasn't studied or it was downright hidden makes some people think it wasn't there @Garwboy @analogfusion Exactly. Just a lot more kids being punished and variously emotionally traumatised for things they couldn’t change. @analogfusion @Garwboy @analogfusion @Garwboy yep I didn’t get diagnosed with ADHD until I was 30. I think my brother was diagnosed after, I’m almost certain my mom had it. She had bipolar so her doctor wouldn’t even consider treating her or testing her for ADHD. It’s really unfortunate, her mom was a doctor in public health, but when she was growing up I don’t think they even knew about ADHD, but especially not in girls. We always saw students in media that today would be called ADHD, autistic, or neurodivergent. The kid who never shuts up in class, the kid who gets way too excited, the kid who struggles to make friends. It's just that those kids used to be called "problems" @kinyutaka @Garwboy I'm sure that word got uttered in the teachers' lounge during my elementary school days. @analogfusion @kinyutaka @Garwboy My dad was a school teacher, and he was aware of ADHD in 1980. I know this because when I was finally diagnosed in 2019 he told me that he had suspected I had it when I was 7, but “nobody took it seriously”. @Garwboy They did. And you can bet that they remorselessly bullied anyone exhibiting the more obvious of those traits for being 'weird' or 'different'. @Garwboy ADD & Autism were added to the DSM (III) in 1980 & neither were commonly diagnosed until the late 80s. So they're right... @scottgal @Garwboy I was already 3 promotions up in the Navy at the time it was invented. My friends probably all knew (they said they did) weird was fine with them. The military wasn't looking, until one day a doctor realized it. What confused them, was that I made it to Management in 16 years and was bored. Then they tried to medicate me, and I just decided to retire instead @mawhrin @Garwboy They do if the diagnosis didn't exist before. Autism for example was diagnosed as 'childhood psychosis / shizoid disorder' and the children often locked away for life https://blogs.uoregon.edu/autismhistoryproject/topics/childhood-psychosis-or-schizophrenia/#:~:text=Before%20autism%20existed%20as%20a,in%20life%20was%20notoriously%20difficult. @scottgal @Garwboy Autism became tied to a lot more services and support than the older classifications of developmental delay or 5th percentile IQ. Autism diagnostic criteria, for the purposes of child services, are sufficiently broad that every parent, physician, and teacher of a cognitively disabled child is going to assign that label and get those services. We certainly did for our oldest. @Garwboy Even the doctors cooperate very poorly to diagnose adult people. My wife has had quite the journey to get #ADHD diagnose and any medical treatment. Of course, nobody talked about it in the 80s when she was young. She was just "very distracted" and "all over the place." And if the system helps her, it also helps me. Much of this is due to better diagnostic tests and increased awareness, aka, we're smarter now. Some is also due to conformity pressures created by our culture. At least in the early 90's, there was also a problem with overdiagnosing kids w/ ADHD. @Garwboy by the same authors of “the waters are turning the frogs gay” and “kids nowadays… (insert any backwards bullcrap)” @Garwboy "You know... the way they describe Autism... that matches Uncle David to a tee. Right down to the last detail." He was one of my favorite uncles. Funny as hell. Often without trying. Whenever he was in town, Ma would send us to #HarMarMall to just kick around all day, surely 'cuz he drove her nuts. @Garwboy Just because something is undiagnosed doesn't mean it isn't there. How many "industrial accidents" were actually suicides, hidden so that the families wouldn't suffer. Some people have struggled to fit into the society we have created forever. Now we have medical diagnoses. Surely, that is progress. I was 12 when the Viking I landed on Mars. I collected all of the newspaper clippings and was super excited to see the first images from the surface of Mars. ❤️ @pinecones_sx @Garwboy Add to this an hyper competitive and fast moving modern world where having attention issues doesn't fit the corporate view that employees should be 100% productive 8 hours a day You know a post is doing well when you start getting replies from people earnestly explaining your own point to you, as if you didn't grasp it @Garwboy Can I just say how incredibly difficult it is to resist explaining the point of this post to you? Thanks a lot, Godel. @Garwboy Wow. Thank you for that. I'm gonna steal that for next time someone tells me my daughter being autistic is a "fad diagnosis". @Garwboy That reminds me of the statement Trump made that went something like this, "Where's climate change? It's freezing cold here!" Somebody retorted, "I ate today. Where's world hunger?" @Garwboy A great answer :-) More on the practical side, I am reading Love and Autism by Kay Kerr. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/75558872-love-autism A great book by an autistic person, I think. It is a very good read for everyone. We all meet, one way or the other, people with autism, and having a better grasp what makes them tick is good for all of us when we meet. @Garwboy In biblical times, I bet some autistic people were considered demon-possessed. @Garwboy oh my gosh yes. It's as if our existence is a static state at all times. We are learning so much about the natural world. We act as if we have it all figured out. Not even remotely. Being an adult only recently diagnoses with ADHD, my parents never noticed even though every person they knew who saw me asked if I had ADHD. People are strange sometimes. @Garwboy Spot on! Asperger's wasn't even a thing yet when I was at school. No wonder it wasn't diagnosed. Of course the name has fallen out of favour now, and rightly, in my view. I'm just "on the spectrum". And all of us who *should* have been diagnosed back then in the "good old days" roll their eyes. @Garwboy in the old days they beat kids that didn’t conform to their idea of behavior. Being frightened into quiet submission was the norm. @Garwboy JFTR: First photo from the surface dated back from 1976 (Viking probes), so you are adressing only 60+ people? 15 years or so ago I could quite often be heard to proclaim shit like "its just bad parenting!" or "its a con by big pharma" blah blah blah. God I would go back and slap myself if I could. I now have a diagnosis myself (diag at 42, now 48) and 2 autistic children (one adult, one teen). My grandson also being referred. I wish it didnt take personal experience to open my eyes. Sadly, many people still touting that BS who never will. If you enjoyed this observation and would like more of the same, as well as an abundance of accessible scientific info about #MentalHealth, you could do worse than checking out my book Psycho-Logical, which offers exactly that, in spades @Garwboy I love this graph from this WaPo article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/09/22/the-surprising-geography-of-american-left-handedness/ A simple explaination would be that for some reason more left handed people were born. The correct one is that with the removal of the stigma more people admitted they were left handed. Same today for ADHD, Autism, being Trans, being Homo-/A-/Pan-/Bi-sexual, … @Garwboy “You also licked lead paint for fun, Steve, now stop drooling on my fucking TPS reports .” @simon_brooke @Garwboy @CoolBlenderKitten @Garwboy I'm kind of dark joking. When I was a kid in mental hospital there were only 30 places in the whole of Scotland for kids, so it wasn't by any means every autistic kid that was sent there. Whether I was 'lucky' or not... is I think impossible to tell. But I do honestly believe that all the mental health trouble I've had all my life is a direct result of how my autism was handled in my first year in primary school. @simon_brooke @Garwboy @CoolBlenderKitten @Garwboy it's a long, long time ago. What makes me angry is that there are kids it's still happening to. @Garwboy That’s the whole point of human evolution, continual growth! And the definition of reactionary is to deny that evolution. We can’t afford to let the reactionaries win, especially on points of the planet’s survival! @Garwboy@ohai.social I'm pretty sure I used to fall into that way of thinking, then I realized pretty much exactly what you said. It works in reverse, too. People used to see dragons and faeries all of time, but suddenly stopped. Rather than the dragons and faeries up and leaving for no good reason, it's likely they never existed in the first place. @Garwboy please dont make autism into a prize or award to win, you're making the world a worse place by doing so even if you don't mean to.
it's not an achievement to unlock it is something to transcend beyond. @Garwboy @Garwboy I'm in my mid 50's. The kid next door was severly autistic. He didn't go to the local public school & his parents didn't take him out & about in our small town. If you didn't live on the block, you probably didn't know he existed. Autistic kids tend to be a lot less isolated & integrated into the community these days. My husbandhas undiagnosed ADHD., when he was a kid, bouncing off the walls, his parents would give him a paint brush & bucket of water & tell him to go paint the house. @Garwboy you never saw *gaslighting* either, but it sure as hell has existed since the beginning of humans @Garwboy My favorite response has been "Oh so Uncle Bob who spent thirty years building a lavishly detailed model railroad in his attic was totally normal then?" @Garwboy The same with LGBT. They “didn’t know “ any LGBT, but ask them if there was an Aunt Beth or Uncle Gerald who never married and lived with a good friend. @Garwboy it's weird looking back at my old school reports and seeing the red flags, it's like we saw it, we just thought it was something else. @Garwboy I want to be able to yell this at people who earnestly say that from time to time... I envy you... In my day they referred to the 'tism as "old souls" or "mature beyond their years"... Go further back, changeling children We did have it. In a very distorted, sensationalistic, Very Special Episode kind of way. IIRC. So, like a cheesy velvet painting of Mars, and it only got dragged out of the attic once or twice a year. #GenX @Garwboy I'm not sure to be alarmed by this stuff or think we've turned a stone in acceptance of autistic people (Always seems to be some step where people just claim its a fad or not real) @Garwboy I want to boost and favorite this toot so much...It breaks Mastodon! Too many people tell me something similar and I roll my eyes into the far flung cosmos. Replying with a simple question, "Never considered why certain people behaved in a particular way Sir/Ma'am?" |
@Garwboy That's a special dedication you have to stupid you've got going there.
Like a modern day circus attraction you are.