@jerry
I'm forcing your hand a little:
What do you think about big instances, should be a limit on how many users per instance is good for the :fediverse:?
I'm grateful as always for your hard work maintaining a community.

@jerry I'm curious what an average account should donate annually to cover their server costs and keep the admin within sanity's grasp

@jerry I remember this having come up before, but which donation method gives you the biggest cut?

@jerry done

@jerry If more people understood enshittification, more people would be using the various Fediverse platforms. Once you see it you can't unsee it.

@jerry done, thank you.

@jerry Not a member of infosec.exchange but since I'm part of Fedia I've been subscribed since I migrated there from Reddit.

Thanks for all you do!

@jerry done and set as recurring on ko-fi

@jerry I do this for @fosstodon . Couple of bucks a month. I am not against helping out the networks I'm part of. Open source projects need cash to keep going.

Light-years better than 11 dollars a month to be called slurs and subsidize a man child and his creditors.

@jerry that's certainly a hot take of mine but I think that if Twitter migrations caps at a certain size, it is probable that donations remain a sustainable model of keeping Mastodon alive and quality of communication to remain authentic and high. See https://infosec.exchange/@gerontion/110651373916468298

@jerry what kinds of costs go into maintaining an instance? As more and more people join how much does the cost increase? Is there a specific viewable number that (with current usage this month would need x donations)?

I apologize if this is sensitive data that shouldn't be shared. I am genuinely curious.

@jerry

@jerry done, and thank you!

@jerry - Switched from Patreon to Ko-Fi. Thanks for all you do for us. All the best!

@jerry
This is why I think the #coop model #CoSocialCa is using (amongst others) is the right approach rather than the pure donations model.

Donations tend to need deep pocketed contributors, and tend to turn into PBS pledge drives.

Coops have reasonable cost subscription, self-funding and self-governance all in one.

@jerry

At some point.. Monetization always becomes an issue. I wrote a long post a while back, but, the tldr is I think it's important to have a credible non-profit structure for large corporate donors, a voting type body with a constitution that enforces minimum viable behaviors, which creates a reliable funding vehicle for large hosters.. To prevent a large corporation with millions of users federating and blowing away everyones budgets and ruining it all. Which now seems to be imminent.

@jerry I support via Patreon, but would likely change if a larger cut can be found.

@jerry would you consider doing something like bay12games does for Dwarf Fortress donations and periodically let us know how you’re doing on the donation front?

Happy to chip in, just massively curious what it takes to keep the place humming along.

@jerry I first joined Twitter back in 2008, and finally canned it for good in January, when they blocked Tweetbot.

In those 15 years I never once knowingly gave them a single penny of my money.

Meanwhile, I've been on this instance since a week after I joined Mastodon, and have been paying €3 a month to help with the running costs ever since.

Funny how it goes, isn't it?

@jerry This is all true and why I continue to donate to my instance. This is a very friendly place and we need to support the admins/moderators/infrastructure that keep it running. TY. H/T to @stux here at mstdn.social

@jerry how do I know who is the owner of mine?

@jerry gave what I could right now. I will donate more soon. Thanks dude for everything you are doing here.

@jerry you made me finally going to patreon and giving 1€ to @Mastodon
12€/year (~10€ when paying support annually) for a social media service that doesn't suck is actually a pretty good deal.

https://media.giphy.com/media/DcoiFG6PQCnLi/giphy.gif

#patreon #mastodon #idomypart

@jerry I set up a recurring donation to my server's admin - that's a simple way to do it (if you can afford to, of course)

@jerry it should be the culture here that if you are getting benefit and enjoyment here, to find if your admin has Patreon or something similar and sign up to give a couple buck or more monthly. The whole reason there are no ads and no algorithms is because of the servers, internet, etc. that the admins maintain. Don't be a #schnorrer with the admins!

@jerry Done! Thanks for all you and admins and other individuals who help do.

@jerry I’m on it ;)