 #threads is at 70 million accounts this morning. At this rate, they eclipse Twitter in mere weeks, and then the network effect turns negative against Twitter. So I expect everybody on Twitter to move to Threads in the next couple of months. I’m sure it will also suck out some #mastodon users — after all, there is a promise of #activitypub. So the #fediverse terrain has just shifted very considerably. How do we adjust and turn this to our advantage? 22 comments
  @J12t Chill. We just keep doing what we're doing and hope the addition #ActivityPub will (1) actually happen and (2) be beneficial. And if not, we just keep making the #Fediverse the best place online. @fell this is one strategy, and should certainly be the fallback, I’m not disagreeing. But can we do better? Can we leverage those changed circumstances in some way we didn’t think of a week ago because a week ago those circumstances didn’t exist?  @J12t I have zero worries about those already at home on mastodon and the Fedi jumping to a commercial, ad driven, micro targeted space after seeing the alternative. I do see tons of people in #Threads experiencing an open, decentralized service (once it federates) as a “half-way house” to get a great many of them to join the real thing - without losing their Treads friends in the migration to here. @tchambers @J12t to be honest it would be nice to be able to merge the threads social graph I would have due to my IG account. When the time comes I might make an account there, collect the social graph and move to a non-meta instance.  @J12t A few things: @J12t I'm not sure the bean counters at Meta will be that interested in federating. Let us see if they implement #Activitypub at all. I don't see much gain for Zuck to botther with the #Fediverse  @J12t The way I see it, it's a great opportunity to create community and spread the word. Considering the birdsite situation it's inevitable that people move over Threads, so when Threads get Activity Pub support we can talk from here and keep that social graph active, so, when Threads screw up (and they will), people will consider the rest of the Fediverse as a real alternative. @J12t but it is still run by right wing biased billionaire. I don’t understand elite celebs and politicians giving in to just another hate filled space. @J12t threads will *always* be a hamstrung version of ActivityPub. That is our advantage. We switch servers flagrantly because can, we vociferously complain to them about the lack of ads in our feeds, we tell them about the cool local feeds we have, but that we'd have to kill them if we told them what goes on there - just use the phrase "It's like Vegas, but better" @J12t The best outcome would be to wait for ActivityPub and then move your social graph of all the cool people over to Mastodon. No ads, no data harvesting and still all the good stuff. But I'm sure Zuck will have thought of that. No way they're gonna make it that easy for us. @J12t I haven’t seen any shift here, just some posts about joining, seeing that’s it’s terrible, and being unable to back out without also leaving Instagram @Malcriada note that #threads doesn’t need any of this, apparently. If they don’t, why do we? @J12t yes but that's only because Threads only has one operating instance at the moment, so of course they don't need to explain what instances are and how to choose one. Everyone is just joining the corporate owned instance. They didn't deal with the fact that most people either never knew or have forgotten all about a de-centralized internet. Users have only had a flattened internet for so long that they will need a map.  |
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@J12t if Threads indeed adds support for ActivityPub, then I see Threads and Mastodon as part of the same ecosystem and more helpful to each other than not. Perhaps like Chrome and Firefox, or IIS and Apache, Thunderbird and Outlook?