@mattcen I get where you're coming from with this.

But unfortunately the reality is that neither of those things you mentioned are in any way a viable alternative to Discord simply due to missing features.

Discord isn't just a chat.
It's a full-on feature rich social platform.
Group chats with channels (and sub-threads), forums (a rather new feature), a fully searchable history, voice and video calls, a very granular user management with roles etc. are just some of the things it offers.