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gotofritz

@mori_au @GossiTheDog are we all pretending a federated network with no search functionality and where defederation wars happen every week can replace twitter as a tool for journalists?

blog.bloonface.com/2023/06/12/

3 Jul 2023 at 6:47 | Wall-to-wall | Open on fosstodon.org
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mori_au 🇦🇺

@gotofritz @GossiTheDog At the rate Musk is boning Twitter it won’t be pretending for long. Any real journo could make it work without search I’m sure. And they could join a server that has search like Universodon (iirc) Or roll a Masto intance that incorporates search. Blah blah the biggest problem is simply that Masto needs way more of the big-fish news generators. If they all came over (which they won’t any time soon if ever) then the journos would follow.

3 Jul 2023 at 6:55 | Open on mastodon.social
gotofritz

@mori_au @GossiTheDog I think people underestimate how important "live information at your fingertips" is for journalists. They are not on twitter to hang out, that's just a side effect. If you can't search - that's not gonna work. Same if you can't read important posts on other instances because your admin defederated them because they refused to defederate Meta.

There are instances with search but who keeps up with what they are, and they will get defederated _because_ they allow search

3 Jul 2023 at 7:04 | Open on fosstodon.org
Black Chic with the Red Truck

@mori_au
Wait… so search is only available for some instances? I did not know that… 🤔

3 Jul 2023 at 7:25 | Open on universeodon.com
mori_au 🇦🇺

@ReneeWestberry Yeah, or so I’ve heard. I’m not on any myself, and wasn’t too impressed when I found out, as I’d liked the idea of not being searchable, but at the end of the day all of Masto is generally exposed to the internets anyway, so probably searchable in one way or another. Google would be hovering everything up already I’m sure?

3 Jul 2023 at 7:37 | Open on mastodon.social
Mike M.

@mori_au @ReneeWestberry
Some instances are full-text searchable by default. I think some instances, you can opt in to full-text searchable for your posts. And I seem to remember that there's a link where, regardless of the policy at your instance, you can register and request that your posts be indexed for searchability? (Somewhere in my bookmarks; if that interests you, I'll go to a real computer and look for it.)

Regardless, #hashtags are searchable (I think).

@mori_au @ReneeWestberry
Some instances are full-text searchable by default. I think some instances, you can opt in to full-text searchable for your posts. And I seem to remember that there's a link where, regardless of the policy at your instance, you can register and request that your posts be indexed for searchability? (Somewhere in my bookmarks; if that interests you, I'll go to a real computer and look for it.)

3 Jul 2023 at 8:48 | Open on mastodon.world
mori_au 🇦🇺

@mmlvx @ReneeWestberry Yeah, I was pretty cool with the idea that hashtags are searchable and text generally is not. Never expected it to last all that long.

3 Jul 2023 at 9:00 | Open on mastodon.social
An Agora
Steve Williams

@mori_au @gotofritz @GossiTheDog
I don’t think anyones pretending it is. A lot of users came here because the were fed up of being abused by the ‘tool’ that mined them to target hate.

3 Jul 2023 at 8:36 | Open on econtwitter.net
gotofritz

@blabberlicious @mori_au @GossiTheDog Yes I know, and they are the most vocal gatekeepers. But we were talking about new comers, specifically journalists, which don't follow in that category.

Ultimately it's a struggle between those who want the fediverse to be a safe bubble where they are left alone (which is totally understandable) and those who want it to be a twitter replacement. They are incompatible aims IMHO

3 Jul 2023 at 10:07 | Open on fosstodon.org
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