@hosford42 @byron7 @Andres @MeanwhileinCanada sadly, being as loud as them isn't the problem when cognitive bias and manipulation is what you're fighting.

I dunno about you, but I tend to think the reason most people make a hard right do it because their fears and biases are so easily amplified by bad actors, including the capacity to see us on the left as the manipulative bad actors whenever we try to debunk all the bullshit theories, no matter how clear our evidence is. The lies are usually more attractive and uncomplicated (as designed), delivered by confident and 'strong' and 'charismatic' influencers, etc.

How do you combat that? Play as dirty as the right? I dunno if that'd lead to the right end result. I reckon they'd beat us at that game.