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Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@Impossible_PhD @KevinLikesMaps
Could probably scare up that many in a large university city like KWC, but even with the projected rates of 1% or so (I do think 5% is a bit pessimistic), there are also the troubles of finding those who aren't already on HRT and willing to engage in such a study. We're consistently in a Catch-22 bind.

SO many eggs I wish could be helped...

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Doc Impossible

@theogrin @KevinLikesMaps Let's do math here with NYC, population 8.4m.

1.6% are trans, and 20% of that are trans men (20% are trans women, 60% are nonbinary). That's 26,880 trans men in NYC. Of those, you need *only* those who are having SI (~40%), so 10,752. Of that, you need the folks who want HRT (~33%), for 3,548. Of THOSE, you need the guys who have not yet begun HRT, but have decided to get it. Then, only those who are willing to do an RCT.

That is a SMALL population, isn't it?

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@Impossible_PhD @KevinLikesMaps
Not as small as it sounds, but also there's the question of outreach, of finding the population...

It's amazing they found as many as they did. I certainly don't scour the corkboard at the local market on a regular basis.

Doc Impossible

@theogrin @KevinLikesMaps Yeah, for a big sample you'd need a nationwide study for sure.

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@Impossible_PhD @KevinLikesMaps
Even then...

We are implicitly distrustful. We have to be. Our lives demand it. We've been burned time and again.

In a city of 2m people, 70 is the most we can honestly hope for.

How fucked is that?

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@Impossible_PhD @KevinLikesMaps
Shit, fuck and damn, it's the Fermi paradox writ domestically.

Doc Impossible

@theogrin @KevinLikesMaps yeeeeeep. Percentages of percentages of percentages of percentages do that *really* quickly.

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@Impossible_PhD @KevinLikesMaps

Intellectually, I know this full well.

One of the problems with being human, though, is that we have zero scope of scale.

Tiny little bacterium can't hurt us, suddenly we're all dead of Black Death.

Lions, how terrible! Mosquitoes, meh.

And so on. Smol things multiply... and get ignored.

A 1% chance also becomes a certainty in time, and people don't grok how often they roll the dice.

Dovekie

@Impossible_PhD Hello! I've seen that 60/20/20 breakdown in numbers of trans people before -- I'm curious, where are those numbers coming from in this case? I would like to add them to my notes :D thank you

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