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mannix

@jaredwhite If it's not your server, then it's not your data. It has been this way since day one of the internet and it will be forever. People are stupid.

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Nic Dafis

@mannix @jaredwhite No, fuck that. People have a right to expect to be treated like, uh, people. All that “if you’re not paying for it, you’re the product” is cynical bullshit. Not everyone is a cunt.

mannix

@nic @jaredwhite Most companies are indeed cunts. Sorry to destroy your illusions but just because something is cynical doesn't mean it's not true.

Nic Dafis

@mannix oh, you pesky little iconoclast, you

free_spleens

@jaredwhite @mannix @nic nobody ever said that it isn't, but that it shouldn't

everyone knows that it works that way; the point is that it shouldn't work like that

erroddy

@mannix @jaredwhite
The lesson to be learned is that all the political opinions and consumer preferences are data to be sold.
And people love giving their opinions.

And trusting some law that "forces" to delete the data after the profits is naive.

Theriac

@mannix@chaos.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social
Let me see if I understand your stance - should anyone be invited into your house, you will be entitled to rifle their pockets and belongings for anything you can sell to a third party, up to an including taking biometric measurements and recording everything they say. A fact you will only make apparent on an intentionally lengthy and tortuously worded document written in tiny, dense font that you waved at them on entry after promising them the time of their life. If so, then would you like to come round to my place for the time of your life.

Don't get me wrong - reading EULs is as important as not getting into the position of having Suge Knight dangle you out of a window when you need to renew a contract . "Caveat Emptor" hasn't been an acceptable legal defence for retail fraud in most modern legal systems for at least a couple of hundred years - so why should it be brought up in relation in digital environments. Refer to articles stating "surprise Mechanics" are not gambling, for the answer.

@mannix@chaos.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social
Let me see if I understand your stance - should anyone be invited into your house, you will be entitled to rifle their pockets and belongings for anything you can sell to a third party, up to an including taking biometric measurements and recording everything they say. A fact you will only make apparent on an intentionally lengthy and tortuously worded document written in tiny, dense font that you waved at them on entry after promising them the time...

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