One thing that stood out to me at #ComputingWithinLimits yesterday was that the "Back to the Trees" talk seemed to (accidentally?) deeply engage with the #Permacomputing topic, without mentioning it at all.
https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/sapyi15v/release/1
When our little Malmö hub discussed PC we got stuck on how creating hardware is an inherently destructive process, and using what already exists is great, but not the same as the regenerative abundance that permaculture aims for. We didn't see a way out of that
The BttT presentation was about using computing to design a better system to learn to identify plants. One of its goals was to become "self-obliviating technology", meaning that the more you use it, the *less* you need it and the less you depend on it. In this case: the more you learn, the less you need the system.