Gregory's Server@Meyerweb that’s exactly why I’m here. I think even if Reddit were to roll-back their changes, I still won’t go back to my decade-old account. They’ve eroded the last of the trust I had, and sadly brought low such an amazing platform. That being said, this is such a fantastic opportunity for platforms like Mastodon, and I’m very excited to be along for the ride! :emoji_wink:
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@Akelupe @forsamori @Meyerweb It can’t be the way to go because it still requires money to run, it’s not free. So, it will take ads, membership and donations. Plenty of instances have shut down due to cost. That’s not an experience users have on big social. @darth_akeda @forsamori @Meyerweb It always took hardware to run, and it doesn't need to be paid by ads or destructive monetization systems, as many communities survive to this day without it. @Akelupe @darth_akeda @Meyerweb I’m actively starting to get involved in the building side of this too :D @darth_akeda looking at starting to work on the mastodon source on GitHub. Just bug fixes at first, probably in React as it’s my day job. It’s a fantastic opportunity to learn RubyOnRails too. @Akelupe Many communities have also failed and shutdown due to finances. Then they have to find a new home which leads to a poor user experience. How it’s paid for is vital and if there’s no agreement then that instance is shutdown. This is not something people have to worry about with big social. Even if they do mind being the product. Peace of mind goes a very long way @darth_akeda I understand what you are talking about, but I fail to see the issue with this topic. It may fail or succeed, independently of where it comes from. (e.g. orkut, google+ in counter-comparison). The difference in what we have with Fediverse is that you can be a part of the solution, you can help build it in many ways, not so much with Big Media, which needs to cater to valuation. @Akelupe Google plus failed not for financial reasons and not a sensible comparison. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter have been going on 13+ years. The issue is only telling part of the story when it comes to the Fediverse. People can be apart of the solution but often times are not otherwise so many instances wouldn’t shut down. The Fediverse also caters to a certain type of user @darth_akeda That is true, I don't see the Fediverse being for everyone, and that's also part of being decentralized, it's not XOR after all, but being open about it is definitely important. @Akelupe That is where we differ. I believe the Fediverse can be for everyone. There’s just many spaces (Mastodon) where there is a huge philosophical hurdle with the gatekeeping & HOA behaviour. The Fediverse is about choice & I believe the vocal minority has looked to stifle that. Anyways, it’s very important when discussing the Fediverse. People only here the praises then get here & have terrible experiences @forsamori @Meyerweb this is why mastodon still can’t replace Reddit for me: threads need to be publicly indexed to be helpful to people in the future. For instance, I searched for “is mastodon indexed by the open web”. No mastodon toot threads were indexed, just these Reddit threads that I ought not click on anymore. There’s value in threads being indexed. It will be a shame to see that go away. @Shaunkoh @Meyerweb I feel like the other #fediverse Reddit-likes might be a better solution. #mastodon is for microblogging primarily - whereas something like #lemmy is more likely what you’re looking for. Personally I’m interested in using both. |
@forsamori @Meyerweb +1; decentralized and federated is the way, imo;
Of course these latest developments won't change the status quo, but it strenghthens alternatives.
They get their ad machine with pretty numbers to impress shareholders, we get more like minded people to escape from those platforms. Win-win?