@saramg Hahah I love this (as a 45 year old dev). I...

@saramg Hahah I love this (as a 45 year old dev).

I could add:

- "I've seen... things. You can't frighten me with code anymore."
- "My technical advice about this feature is to not do it at all"

Full onboard with the "zero fucks given".

Like 13 Jun 2023 at 12:15 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social

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SaraMG

@martinvanaken "My technical advice about this feature is to not do it at all"

I recently had this exact conversation with a PM (and won), and I have junior devs comes to after like, "I had no idea we could say 'No'..."

#TrueMentorship

13 Jun 2023 at 15:30 | Open on fosstodon.org

Martin

@saramg Had this too:

- But [CEO] asked for it
- Well tell him no and explain why like you did to me
- But I can't tell no to the CEO
- Actually, you can. And in some situation it's even required

Obviously if I explain and the CEO say "do it anyway" I will - but indeed, challenging things is a daily activity.

13 Jun 2023 at 15:35 | Open on mastodon.social

meduz'

@saramg @martinvanaken Same observation today at the office (I was exceptionally not working remotely, which helps small talks with people I never work with): him and I are now in teams away from core apps development. When we where core maintainers of important apps, we used to challenge decisions and work hands-in-hands with products people to improve the output, but most of the new dev teams don’t seem to have that culture, resulting in problematic output. They just execute. 😢

13 Jun 2023 at 22:42 | Open on m.nintendojo.fr