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Mullvad VPN

The abuse vector of port forwarding has caught up with us, and today we announce the discontinuation of support for port forwarding.

Learn more here: mullvad.net/blog/2023/5/29/rem

28 comments
kel

@mullvadnet

Sorry to hear this 🙁

It's a shame we can't have nice things because of a disrespectful minority.

Thank you for doing the responsible thing though, best wishes!

Pierre Bourdon

@mullvadnet welp, that makes your service completely useless for me (no more torrenting anonymously). Guess I'll go shopping elsewhere instead of renewing.

Daniel :nixos:

@mullvadnet Can you be more specific about what exactly „has caught up with us“ means? I would guess that all these things you mentioned in the blog post have been an issue for years, so what exactly changed *now*?

DELETED

@mullvadnet Ah shoot. Super bummed to hear that.

Braw ☕🏳️‍🌈

@mullvadnet welp, that sucks, among all things you need a VPN for, torrenting just says goodbye.

Rev. Dr. Oswald J. Rhea

@mullvadnet great, now I have a years worth of useless VPN, really disappointed to hear this.

Which one is everyone else going to move to? Taking recommendations for a good VPN with no logs, and port forwarding.

Alex🇺🇦

@mullvadnet Sorry to say that I cannot continue my subscription as the service becomes useless to me..

Kael Rills

@mullvadnet This actually kills both security and privacy for me. I have a port forwarded to remotely VPN into my own network with my phone, which allows me to be masked behind Mullvad's IP as well as access all my internal network services away from home. This now means I'd have to do a direct-IP connect with my own port forward, leaving some slight exposure to my real IP. Also I use port forwarding for friends to connect to my game servers, which now means I have to expose my real IP to the chat room instructions for connecting to my game servers. Lastly, some internal network services I provide to close friends and family (i.e. Nextcloud) now must use my real IP when updating my DNS records, which exposes me even further and identifies the owner to my personal domain. I understand why you're wanting to do this, but I beg that you come up with a better solution or allow for either an "exception program" for accounts that have been with you for many years... This WILL hurt business :(

@mullvadnet This actually kills both security and privacy for me. I have a port forwarded to remotely VPN into my own network with my phone, which allows me to be masked behind Mullvad's IP as well as access all my internal network services away from home. This now means I'd have to do a direct-IP connect with my own port forward, leaving some slight exposure to my real IP. Also I use port forwarding for friends to connect to my game servers, which now means I have to expose my real IP to the chat...

varx/tech

@mullvadnet I'm not a customer, but I'm curious—if you charged extra for port forwarding, what price point do you think you would have to set in order to reduce abuse and make the feature worth your while?

Mullvad VPN

@varx

Hard to say. Interesting to think about, but I we do not have plans to reverse the stance regardless.

Lucas Pinto Ricardo

@mullvadnet Like a lot of people around here, this feature was what made this VPN stand out from others... Exposing your real IP to people you do not necessarily know is a bummer. It exposes your network (low-grade DDoS, nmap, etc.) when a service like yours was capable of mitigating that.

I will not renew my subscription because of that. But it is still an excellent VPN for other less specific uses.

TangoAndToys :noverify:

@mullvadnet Oh no, this saddens me. I understand, but it does make transitioning completely from another VPN to Mullvad impossible now.

I hope that a solution for this is found in the near future. I found your previous port assignment method pretty novel.

~ $ Cosipa

@mullvadnet Damn, just bought the VPN a few months back for port forwarding (torrenting), luckily I only paid for 6 months. Sad

Mullvad VPN

@Cosipa

Torrents will still work without port forwarding. This download of the Qubes OS .iso was performed over a WireGuard server with no port forwarding.

~ $ Cosipa

@mullvadnet But seeding tho? That's much worse, just tested it :(

EJ Schenck

@mullvadnet so for those of us that bought yearly subscriptions… will you be offering refunds?

Mullvad VPN

@ejs

You're welcome to contact our Support Team by email

support at mullvad dot net

@vexorian

@mullvadnet Surely you are going to offer refunds to anyone who bought an extended-length subscription thinking that they would have access to this feature, right?

Mullvad VPN

@vexorian

You're welcome to contact our Support Team by email

support at mullvad dot net

DELETED

@mullvadnet Great! I keep running into ip-blocking issue all the time lately, so frustrating

DELETED

@mullvadnet That sucks 😞

I had recently recommended setting up a XMPP server on a system using Mullvad port forwarding to someone that lived in a very anti-LGBTQIA+ country.

I'll have to try to get a hold of them and recommend an alternative

It's understandable, though. It'll just lead to more problems for you guys as time goes on if you kept it going

Mullvad VPN

@qstambaugh

You could potentially host this service elsewhere, and utilise our VPN service to reach it.

Manuel :FrogeSnek:

@mullvadnet Was it considered to only allow port forwarding for a certain server block or locations like some of your competitors do (E.g. no port forwarding in us locations)? And if it was, why not? It would still allow legitimate use cases to exist and not worsen the experience for the wider user base. Sadly malicious use can probably never be fully prevented with such a service but completely removing this feature also worsens the value proposition of Mullvad significantly.

l2ol3

@mullvadnet 👎🏻 so those who make legitimate use of port forwarding (in my case self-hosted website + ftp) are harmed... nice policy. I'm changing vpn. 👎🏻
R.I.P.

Oink

@mullvadnet I renewed my Mullvad account shortly before this announcement for another year via prepaid card (Amazon). Mullvad is useless for me now. Can I get a refund?

Mullvad VPN

@oink

Contact our support team by email

support at mullvad dot net

ASTRELION

@mullvadnet I'd gladly pay extra to keep this feature, will probably have explore switching VPNs now :(

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