@TomSwirly @rrwo There's a whole thread of US conservative thought (I won't dignify it with the label "philosophy") that starts by asking "if I am a sovereign individual, do I have the right to sell my kidney? Okay, how about the right to sell myself?" And does a deep dive into concluding that yes, slavery *is* compatible with libertarianism (because property rights are the ONLY rights). Then they throw away the diving board of logic and out themselves as slavery stans. It gets very ugly, fast.