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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 馃惂馃幃

Real talk: all these constant Content Warnings bug me. And people who keep asking for them bug me. It鈥檚 irritating seeing them constantly for random stuff.

By all means use them for things that are in some way terrible but it feels like we鈥檙e being forced to put things under a CW just because some people will get their knickers in a twist over what someone said.

Alt text reminders I get but the CW for an ever growing list鈥nnoying.

21 comments
Michael T Babcock

@gamingonlinux nobody's forcing you to do anything, just be considerate.

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 馃惂馃幃

@mikebabcock be considerate of what? What should absolutely be behind a CW? Why are so many people doing it constantly for all manner of topics?

Alex Oladele

@gamingonlinux @mikebabcock I've been seeing it used as a subject line equivalent of emails. It tells you what the post will be about and you can decide if you want to read it or not. Not everyone uses hashtags, but they can describe the topic their post is about. It's definitely a slightly different way of interacting, and It's nice that you have a more granular filter of what you want to see

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 馃惂馃幃

@Wizkid_alex @mikebabcock ah, see now that鈥檚 interesting and something I simply hadn鈥檛 thought about - thanks for giving your thoughts 馃憣

Oblomov

@gamingonlinux @Wizkid_alex @mikebabcock fun fact: Mastodon actually users the Subject field of ActivityPub objects for its CW. An example of CW used not for sensitive stuff, but to reduce the impact of long threads in timelines is the way @pluralistic does it.

j

@gamingonlinux @mikebabcock Ignoring the obviously terrible things not everyone's going to want to see, I also use CWs for posts that are unrelated to the main reasons why people would follow me. But that's how I use it, I certainly don't push others to use CWs how I do.

Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

@gamingonlinux It's weird when they are used for just regular content & not common trigger or upsetting content. Is hashtag blocking not a thing?

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@gamingonlinux On your end you should be able to go into your client (or the web page settings if that's what you use) and tick the setting to turn off all CW's. That way at least you don't have to click on everything to see it. As for the other side of the equation, I wish there was a better answer there, but I don't know what it is.

lj路rk

@gamingonlinux But... can't you just auto-expand them or even hide them? This is just a UX issue not a social issue with people using CW (or Content Notices). I mean, I personally don't want CWs for politics but totally for gore. Other people are completely different here, we won't ever reach a consensus.

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 馃惂馃幃

@ljrk I get there won鈥檛 be a consensus, but I鈥檝e seen how people on Mastodon react. Acting like the Masto Police, demanding stuff they don鈥檛 like to go behind a CW. It鈥檚 more a chat about the why. Gore yeah sure that鈥檚 kinda obvious but like random thoughts, politics etc - so many entirely random subjects people keep hiding away, partly because they feel they have to.

lj路rk

@gamingonlinux Tbqh, I've never had issues with tone policing (in a rude way), but a *lot* of abusive stuff is (thankfully) already blocked/filtered/removed by the awesome mods. Sometimes I just see a notification of some shit, want to report it and it's already gone :3
Most time, I just don't notice.

Whether or not something should be behind CW is, in the end, though simply a very personal preference. Sexual stuff? No CW for me. There are a *lot* of traumatized people on here (actually, the fedi was built by and for them, the CW culture is much older than the Twitter exodus and was never questioned... until now) and we cannot expect them to tell us *why* this seemingly arbitrary thing may be a trigger.

In the end, it's: Either CW or the person cannot follow you. Which you may be fine with, or, in the spirit of inclusion, try to think of using the CW. It's your choice.

I personally, as one can see, often do *not* use CWs. I probably should more often as I often post a lot of quite heavy stuff, but I'm not used to it (yet). For now, I cannot recommend those people to follow me. But I do hope to change that.

@gamingonlinux Tbqh, I've never had issues with tone policing (in a rude way), but a *lot* of abusive stuff is (thankfully) already blocked/filtered/removed by the awesome mods. Sometimes I just see a notification of some shit, want to report it and it's already gone :3
Most time, I just don't notice.

cybik :deifirev:

@gamingonlinux on one side, I don't disagree.

On the other, CWs are how I limit exposure to "my bullshit" for my own subscribers. I'm betting like 5% of the people who are subscribed to my feed care about my Gatcha bullshit, so I put that stuff under Content Warnings.

I do try to be witty about my CW tags though.

Vile Lasagna

@gamingonlinux as someone who is not a particularly visible profile and, thus, hasn't been bothered about it, it's easy enough for me to just err on the side of caution/kindness and move on.

But I have seen some CWs which often just make me a bit confused. Like, I don't really understand why "eye contact" or even "food" would be behind CWs.

Still, useful stuff for specific tangents like spoilers and local politics

Pellitory

@gamingonlinux

Why let it bother you that much?

I don't mind if you block me for this, but from following you since more or less I started on mastodon, you do seem to let yourself get riled up about all sorts of things. Some are things that would piss anyone off, some are maybe less important?

Don't wear yourself out man, it's OK to let some stuff just wash over you!

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 馃惂馃幃

@Pellitory it鈥檚 a social network and I鈥檓 being social by posting my thoughts - maybe don鈥檛 think so deep into how I feel about a random rant eh?

Pellitory

@gamingonlinux

But that's exactly what I mean...you react like I'm challenging you when I'm not.

I don't get the reflex defensive reaction, I'm not against you somehow. I like what you do, that's why I follow you.

flamingos can't draw

@gamingonlinux It also gets supper annoying in a thread as you have to click to show every individual post.

Diane 馃暤

@gamingonlinux

On the whole, your GamingOnLinux account is pretty focused on the work described by the account name and I haven't noticed many your posts being off-topic. If people are mad about gaming on linux topics, maybe they shouldn't follow an account named gaming on linux?

There's also using CWs to warn people about spoilers, that's a not unreasonable use case.

My personal rule of thumb is to CW things that I think are likely to depress the people who I usually interact with.

So I think CWing things that regular news media tends to mark as sensitive such as real violence seems like a good policy. (Like photos of war zones, mass shootings, etc)

But people can also be unnecessarily demanding. I think mattblaze's at federate.social's complaints about someone wanting him to hash tag his black and white art was pretty excessive.

I think there's a fuzzy area of what about trend that lots of people have gotten sick of, like AI generated art or wordle.

I was ok with CWing the random pictures generated by craiyon/dall-e mini because they took up a lot of space and weren't really that interesting.

@gamingonlinux

On the whole, your GamingOnLinux account is pretty focused on the work described by the account name and I haven't noticed many your posts being off-topic. If people are mad about gaming on linux topics, maybe they shouldn't follow an account named gaming on linux?

There's also using CWs to warn people about spoilers, that's a not unreasonable use case.

Mateu le grille-pain ricain

@gamingonlinux so far I've only used em twice, once for a seizure warning (thanks, Vanilla OS) and once for a Unabomber joke

PartyCatCeilidh

@gamingonlinux on top of all the interesting takes here, it鈥檚 hard to say what random things can trigger trauma responses. The smell of books of all things is one of mine because one of the traumatic things I went through happened in a library. That said, there鈥檚 some responsibility on my part to deal with that, and to ask everyone to cater to my needs is unrealistic and unreasonable.

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