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It's now possible to mark links to your #Wikipedia user page as verified on Mastodon!

Documentation: mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyL

This was developed and implemented by @taavi who wrote it as a #MediaWiki extension, named "RealMe". It's open source (like all of the Wikipedia software) and can be used on any MediaWiki wiki: mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:R

Screenshot of a form field labeled "URLs to external profiles:" that has "https://example.org/" in it.
25 comments
Sylvhem

@wikipedia @taavi I need to do that! Wait, maybe I should make my old user page less cringe first 😅.

Tim Chambers

@wikipedia @taavi @mediawiki

Integration of the #Fediverse and #Mastodon Identity standards into the software that powers #WikiPedia & other Wiki's is so important I find it hard to express.

It is the first big step of integration between the Wikipedian and Fediverse communities, and it has been massively under-noticed and not gotten nearly the attention this deserved.

I'm all for it, want to find ways to help & hope this is the beginning of much more integration to come. 🔥

@fediversenews

Steve

@tchambers @fediversereport @wikipedia @taavi @mediawiki This sounds like great news. I hope more of our federated friends hear about it.

System32 :fsfe:

@swasserstrom @tchambers
Hi Tim
I was wondering about creating a Wikipedia page about myself. And I heard only famous people can do that, is that true? Thanks

@fediversereport @wikipedia @taavi @mediawiki

nawan 🇮🇩

@System32 @swasserstrom @tchambers @fediversereport @wikipedia @taavi @mediawiki I don’t think it’s right to say that someone has to be famous to have their own article on Wikipedia. You don’t have to be famous, but to be “known”. A person becomes “known” for many things: achievements, controversies, victims of crime, etc. Also, an article about yourself isn’t necessarily a good thing.

Pax Ahimsa Gethen

@System32 @swasserstrom @tchambers @fediversereport @wikipedia @taavi @mediawiki

No one, famous or otherwise, should create a Wikipedia page about themself, because it's a conflict of interest. Guidelines here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi

rpigab 🦀

@funcrunch It's not about oneself, it's just the user's page. It can be about anything.

Pax Ahimsa Gethen

@rpigab

@System32's question implied a Wikipedia article, not a user page.

rpigab 🦀

@funcrunch @System32 Oh ok, I just can't see it in this reply thread.

Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle

@wikipedia

Great! I still can't tell people what my profession and PhD are, because that would be making my page into a CV or something like that, but I can tell people on Wikipedia how to co ntact me elsewhere. (rant off)

Evan Prodromou

@wikipedia @taavi this is cool and good work but it'd be really great if you could verify articles in the main namespace, so that @davew is verified as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Win

Tim Bray

@evan @wikipedia @taavi @davew

I think that would be hard. Trying to figure out the chain of trust, since anyone can edit any entry.

Evan Prodromou

@timbray @wikipedia @taavi I agree, but it's not insuperable and it'd be a huge service

Mike

@evan @timbray @wikipedia @taavi online identity verification for notable people via Wikipedia — that’d be a great service to provide which would be even more authoritative than Twitter’s Verified feature before it was ruined

Joseph Holsten

@evan @timbray @wikipedia @taavi See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Aut
It’s the standard way of linking controlled identifiers to subjects. It may need a sturdier process, but the framework exists.

Denny Vrandečić

@evan @timbray @wikipedia @taavi

It should be in Wikidata.

I see two possible approaches, there are probably more: either through a signed statement, or through checking the editor who contributed the fact. The latter is an unusual step, the former requires some work.

I'm not sure what a decent way to do this would look like.

D.C. May "Froggy"

@wikipedia @taavi

Hm. still trying to work this out... Linked en:w and my page here... It says link rel="me" "will be added, it doesn't say I should add it...where is the verification supposed to appear?

Labdajiwa

@Infrogmation @wikipedia @taavi Your verification should be work. You can check it in the source code of your HTML user page, Ctrl+U (for Chrome) and find it with Ctrl+F rel="me".

Try remove and add your user page URL again in your Mastodon settings?

Robert Wire

@Infrogmation It's supposed to show up on your Mastodon profile page.

(Basically, the idea is that some web page contains a link to your Mastodon profile with the rel="me" attribute (which the "RealMe" extension provides for WP). Then, when you put a link to that web page in your Mastodon profile, your Mastodon instance is supposed to visit the page and check whether it has a rel="me" link pointing back. If so, a check mark of some kind should appear next to the link in your profile, indicating that Mastodon has verified that the linked page does indeed vouch for you.)

As for why it's not working in your case, I don't know. A working example should look like jazztodon.com/@ctproduced (the two web pages vouch for the Mastodon profile by linking back to it).

@Infrogmation It's supposed to show up on your Mastodon profile page.

(Basically, the idea is that some web page contains a link to your Mastodon profile with the rel="me" attribute (which the "RealMe" extension provides for WP). Then, when you put a link to that web page in your Mastodon profile, your Mastodon instance is supposed to visit the page and check whether it has a rel="me" link pointing back. If so, a check mark of some kind should appear next to the link in your profile, indicating that...

Thaiis Thei 𓁟

@wikipedia @taavi This could be a useful tool for exposing connections among editors who are members of groups that are organising to subvert Wikipedia e.g. the guerrilla skeptics. Of course once identified nothing will be done because Jimmy sympathizes with them...

#wikipedia

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