@strypey @tchambers @FediThing I don't find ultimatums useful. Plus he already knows what needs to be done.
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@strypey @tchambers @FediThing I don't find ultimatums useful. Plus he already knows what needs to be done. 6 comments
Anyone is free to defederate anyone, but everyone can ask "to what end?" Defederation is a fundamentally self-defeating tactic to fighting centralization. And when does it stop? The top 3 largest servers etc? Top 10? Much better: focus on growing the middle and lower end serers than blocking the big. There's a danger is that the more m.s grows the more the network effect will kick in. I'm often having to deal with people on @feditips who think m.s is better because it's where everyone is going anyway. There could be a feedback loop where growth causes growth. Also, as m.s gets bigger there's more chance of it being sold to someone worse. Eugen might change, or get bored, or get an offer he cannot refuse (not mafia, but just a lot of money 😁 ). @tchambers @strypey @rysiek @feditips Growing middle and low ends is what used to happen on the old onboarding, where it asked people to choose a server. It no longer does that, and people are no longer being driven to middle and low ends. That alone should be cause for concern. @FediThing @strypey @rysiek @feditips The proper use of "network effects" should be to rally the thousands of mid-range and smaller servers to grow, and to encourage users to migrate to them from M.S. not to balkanize or fragment the Fedi. Onboarding doesn't only happen at the JoinMastodon level unless folks don't push it at the local servers. BTW: the new onboarding now only apply to the mobile app, right, the web UI is unchanged? And don't most use other apps now (Ivory, icebubes etc)? |
@rysiek
> I don't find ultimatums useful
It's not an ultimatum, just a statement of fact. Some admins are already Limiting m.s. Defederation, like winter, is coming if he doesn't get House Mastodon in order.
> Plus he already knows what needs to be done
Maybe. I'm no mind reader, so I don't know. At least if it's stated openly, a) he definitely does know, and b) there's evidence of due process when people complain about defederation.
Who knows, he might even listen?
@tchambers @FediThing
@rysiek
> I don't find ultimatums useful
It's not an ultimatum, just a statement of fact. Some admins are already Limiting m.s. Defederation, like winter, is coming if he doesn't get House Mastodon in order.
> Plus he already knows what needs to be done
Maybe. I'm no mind reader, so I don't know. At least if it's stated openly, a) he definitely does know, and b) there's evidence of due process when people complain about defederation.