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comex

@rysiek IMO the idea of a Fediverse made up of only small instances fundamentally does not scale, from a social perspective. Especially with a broader, less techy audience where people are less likely to have a friend or a friend-of-a-friend running a server. And I want the Fediverse to be for everyone. Having *one* big server is bad and avoidable, but having N big servers is hard to avoid, and they’ll keep getting bigger. If big servers break moderation then we
need better moderation tools.

15 May 2023 at 0:40 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mas.to
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@comex please point out where I am suggesting that we need "a Fediverse made up of only small instances"?

15 May 2023 at 0:43 | Open on mstdn.social
comex

@rysiek You didn’t, I guess. But for one, you quoted approvingly:

> We also don’t believe that flagship instances with thousands and thousands of users are very good for the Fediverse

mastodon.social is of course well past ‘thousands and thousands’…

And second, regarding mstdn.social/@rysiek/110368191 item 2, it seems to me that as the network grows, more and more servers will reach “critical mass” of being too big to ban.

15 May 2023 at 1:06 | Open on mas.to
comex

@rysiek (Admittedly, some of the “size and clout” factor probably has to do with mastodon dot social’s size relative to the size of the network, not its absolute size, but… absolute size seems important. It determines how many ‘good’ users would be excluded by defederation.)

15 May 2023 at 1:08 | Open on mas.to
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@comex to me the relative size is more important at this stage.

15 May 2023 at 1:08 | Open on mstdn.social
Edwin Groothuis

@comex @rysiek We need to go back to the time that ISPs were more than a "I take your money, here is your IP address" and provided email services, local mirrors, user homepages, game servers etc etc etc.

15 May 2023 at 1:25 | Open on aus.social
Raymond Neilson

@mavetju @comex @rysiek Nononononono, that lashed a generation to their ISP because they couldn't change their email address or move their website

15 May 2023 at 1:27 | Open on mstdn.ca
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
Edwin Groothuis

@delta_vee @comex @rysiek Unlike currently where they can't move from Twitter, Facebook, Gmail as it's all monocultural?

At least with my local ISP I can talk to somebody when there is a problem I can't solve for my friends.

15 May 2023 at 1:31 | Open on aus.social
Raymond Neilson

@mavetju @comex @rysiek I've swapped ISPs (and cities) a lot more than any of those.

I mean, I'm the kind of masochist who still runs their own email server (and DNS), so I'm well acquainted with the tech side.

I still have no good answer when my mother asks how best to move off her ISP's email because she wants to switch ISPs

15 May 2023 at 1:33 | Open on mstdn.ca
Raymond Neilson

@mavetju @comex @rysiek Side note: none of the ISPs in question are small enough that anyone can even get to an L2 tech on the first call. They're utterly horrid to deal with, and I'll debug my own AWS setup with tcpdump before I ever call them

15 May 2023 at 1:36 | Open on mstdn.ca
🦠Toxic Flange🔬⚱️🌚
Kévin ⏚

@mavetju @comex @rysiek welcome to modern day France. All the providers have email and some still have personal site hosting. Although minitel was up until 2011, so give it ten years before all that gets shuttered

15 May 2023 at 1:33 | Open on social.coop
Sascha Wenninger

@mavetju @comex @rysiek please, no. This was all utter garbage and ended up with people staying with bad/expensive ISPs because they held their email address hostage.

15 May 2023 at 3:19 | Open on mastodon.social
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