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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦's posts Post Back to profile
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@rysiek It's certainly true that large instances like mastodon.social can't really practically be defederated, so it falls on the shoulders of these instance admins to do a cracking job of moderation. It is also true that bad actors will try to exploit "too big to defederate" by launching attacks. So, we are going to get some bad stuff coming through before it can be squashed. If it is not squashed quickly, then we need to make noise, but it seems this was handled swiftly.

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14 May 2023 at 19:25 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.online
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@rysiek Playing devil's advocate, and potentially addressing another community issue, what if the coordinated attack is against a mid-sized instance and the instance is overwhelmed and not able to respond quickly? The instance then gets listed on some block list and is defederated. Is this an equitable solution? Now the users of the mid-size instance are all disenfranchised. Does this provide attackers with another way to disrupt the smooth operations of the Fediverse?

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@rysiek Playing devil's advocate, and potentially addressing another community issue, what if the coordinated attack is against a mid-sized instance and the instance is overwhelmed and not able to respond quickly? The instance then gets listed on some block list and is defederated. Is this an equitable solution? Now the users of the mid-size instance are all disenfranchised. Does this provide attackers with another way to disrupt the smooth operations of the Fediverse?

14 May 2023 at 19:29 | Open on mastodon.online
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@rysiek We need to recognize that as we grow there will be bad actors out there probing our weaknesses and trying to break our systems of moderation. Like all complex systems, we have vulnerabilities at all levels and the means of addressing these are with vigilance and active counter measures. Technology alone can help, but it is not enough.

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14 May 2023 at 19:33 | Open on mastodon.online
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@rysiek What we need is cooperation and a rich arsenal of response to attacks. Certainly mastodon.social as the Gothem here has a key role to play, but just saying the problems are because it is a big city, and the solution is to have no big cities, is too simplistic and ignores that you need effective measures for enforcement of community standards throughout the social fabric.

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14 May 2023 at 19:38 | Open on mastodon.online
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@rysiek The thing about Mastodon that gives us a fighting chance at this is that we generally are civic minded and care about our communities big and small. When an invader shows up bend on wrecking havoc, we pull together and deal with them. It is fine to then assess what happened, what went wrong, and how to do better in the future. But casting aspersions and attributing bad faith motives to one another is not the right path. Dividing the community is how the attacker wins.

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@rysiek The thing about Mastodon that gives us a fighting chance at this is that we generally are civic minded and care about our communities big and small. When an invader shows up bend on wrecking havoc, we pull together and deal with them. It is fine to then assess what happened, what went wrong, and how to do better in the future. But casting aspersions and attributing bad faith motives to one another is not the right path. Dividing the community is how the attacker wins.

14 May 2023 at 19:44 | Open on mastodon.online
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@rysiek Bubbling out to a more macro view, we can take great pride in the fact that we are by and large a strong community that cares about respect for each other, and that we have the culture, structure and tools that give us a fighting chance of maintaining these social norms. This is what is really unique about Mastodon and the Fediverse, and it has its roots in our genesis. Bottom line, it's a nice place and we intend to keep it that way. We got this!

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@rysiek Bubbling out to a more macro view, we can take great pride in the fact that we are by and large a strong community that cares about respect for each other, and that we have the culture, structure and tools that give us a fighting chance of maintaining these social norms. This is what is really unique about Mastodon and the Fediverse, and it has its roots in our genesis. Bottom line, it's a nice place and we intend to keep it that way. We got this!

14 May 2023 at 19:57 | Open on mastodon.online
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