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mort

@jamey It may be controversial because there are *real* issues which won't be fixed, such as global hotkeys being intentionally broken, and (at least until libdecoration improves) native-looking decorations requiring GTK thanks to GNOME's lack of SSDs.

I use Wayland myself and the intentionally missing features are worth it for me, but people understandably get upset when you take away very important features and tell people to suck it.

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jokeyrhyme

@mort @jamey there's also a portal now for global keyboard shortcuts: flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-

Waiting for all the push-to-talk apps to support it, though

mort

@jokeyrhyme That's interesting. Is it (or will it be) supported in GNOME?

Also, I really wish that portal stuff would separate itself from flatpak. It really isn't a good look to say that "flatpak portals" is the solution to all kinds of Wayland stuff that *should* be completely unrelated to flatpak. But that's neither here nor there.

mort

@jokeyrhyme The reason I asked is, my impression is that a whole lot of Wayland people see global shortcuts ans an anti-feature which shouldn't be supported. Therefore, the existence of a DBus interface specification doesn't really matter; what matters is whether Wayland people have actually reversed their opinion or not.

So what I'm interested in is really official communication about intent.

jokeyrhyme

@mort interesting

well, I guess it's technically not _in_ wayland, and I can see why as there is a fair bit of UX that is better implemented at the portal/desktop level

I filed some feature request issues, let's see what happens:
- github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-
- gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-des
- github.com/emersion/xdg-deskto

jokeyrhyme

@mort agreed regarding naming, it's a little awkward

xdg-desktop-portal as a concept works even in X11 (although it's less necessary there), so it's not even a wayland-specific thing let along a flatpak-specific thing

Although, I certainly don't mind credit going to the flatpak folks seeing as they took some initiative and started addressing these features

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