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falktx

@marcan this could easily be said about many software projects.
some folks wants stuff to work nice and stable, but do not want to put in the work themselves to help make it so.

with how many developers there are out there, it is a bit sad that so few (sometimes none) volunteer to take care of base infrastructure.

perhaps the result of a systemic problem.
X11/Wayland just being one of critical pieces involved. the same story to be repeated soon with other critical system libraries.

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Hector Martin

@falktx People *have* volunteered, then burned out. Xorg is just that fundamentally broken and unfixable. At some point we just have to accept its fate.

Thomas Depierre

@falktx @marcan also want to point out that considering that it is sad that *noone volunteered* is kinda the problem here. Since when volunteering to be hurt to help others with no support and nothing to get in return, what do you expect?

Why should developers out there "take care" of something that it seems no one really want?
Why are the users that want it so much not taking care of said devs? isn't *that* a bit sad?

Thomas Depierre

@falktx @marcan If anything, we should be happy that no one *volunteered*. It is the fact that people volunteered for so long to maintain something we knew would hurt them that should be sad.

falktx

@Di4na @marcan I am glad they did, and hope we get to keep X11 things working for a while, because we are still in a transition period.

It is nice to want things to move along, but we need to provide a path for that to happen that doesn't involve having to deal with broken things.

Users are complaining for a reason, for as much as devs have been saying to "move to wayland!", they cannot do that when the tools they rely on do not work.

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