Gregory's Server@moanos_foss yes dezentralisation prevent spam. we saw that with emails.
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@moanos_foss @Hughenknubbel so you would just block an instance that is targeted by spam abusers? :schmusekadser: @SolSoCoG @Hughenknubbel Yes until they solved the issue. We (lediver.se) also limit mastodon.social for the time being. But a smaller instance would make less problems @moanos_foss @SolSoCoG @Hughenknubbel But it has different problems https://mastodon.social/@nhan/110222576212477948. @moanos_foss That's just gonna make your users having hard time to communicate with his friend at that blocked instance.
@moanos_foss @Hughenknubbel @Gargron how about when it is "to big to block"? And why can't they spam the whole network? Obtaining a list of accounts as they're doing now and just... spam like email? @moanos_foss there must be only one Docker Container Script, that setting up Mastodon instances automatically with random users while sleeping and federating some time and you will have the same problems. @gargron @Hughenknubbel Nope, you need domains to do that, they are at least somewhat expensive (you can block a root domain and all subdomains) @Hughenknubbel Bu you still have to pay it. And I guess domain registrars also have anti-spam measures (as they also have to deal with the outfall). So while not bullet-proof it's much better. My stolen credit card number this past weekend had 8 transactions (over an hour) on it before the fraud detect at the bank took action. Average transaction was $20 USD. Funding is not a problem for a determined mal-actor.  @Hughenknubbel Email didn't have as effective antiabuse measures, and what did get implemented tended to be terrible (like reject on DNSBL). @BalooUriza nothing prevent spammers to setting up thousend of micro instances. @Hughenknubbel There isn't, no, but, that's easily relatively easily mitigated since it's harder to set that up across multiple ASNs. But it does avoid the "overcrowded, undermoderated" problem large instances tend to have. @Hughenknubbel @moanos_foss @Gargron decentralization doesn't prevent spam as an only step. but it's certainly a valid approach along with other mitigations. one big juicy centralized target vs many different smaller ones that can intervene at their interface  @Hughenknubbel @moanos_foss @Gargron weirdly bad faith reply given that the domain of the email world has been completely overtaken by large instances |
@Hughenknubbel @Gargron Depends. It's easy to block one server (when it is not "to big to block"). And problems never affect the whole network.