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Григорий Клюшников

Jeff, as far as I'm concerned, it's a fundamentally unsolvable problem. The best mostly-decentralized identity systems we have (email, ActivityPub) ultimately rely on DNS.

1 May 2023 at 20:47 | Wall-to-wall
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Jeff Martin

@grishka That's what I was afraid of. It does seem unsolvable. :blobcatverysad:

DID at least comes close to a reasonable solution here, because people get to choose which centralized authority they want to use (ie the resolvers), but most of those resolvers are blockchains. Ugh. There has to be a better way.

1 May 2023 at 20:52 | Open on gladtech.social
Océane 🏳️‍⚧️

@grishka @cuchaz @cwebber I think that this problem is currently bound to the State anyway so I'd argue for hardware tokens issued and replaced by the State, similarly to ID cards. We have until the revolution to figure something out

1 May 2023 at 22:43 | Open on social.coop
Mark W. Alexander

@grishka @cuchaz @cwebber
Step 1: Put whatever org coordinates international zip codes in charge of DNS.

Oh, and eliminate profit off DNS and domains.

Step 2: ???

2 May 2023 at 1:44 | Open on mas.to
Григорий Клюшников

Mark W. Alexander, as far as I'm aware, there's no such organization. Each country's postal service has its own zip code system without regard for international uniformity. For example, Russian zip codes map one to one to post offices. I was surprised to find out that it's not like that in other parts of the world. In some countries (UK and iirc Canada) zip codes even contain letters.

If you eliminate profit off of DNS and domains, how do you keep a scarce resource available to everyone? How do you prevent squatters from registering an entire dictionary worth of domains in every TLD and then extorting people? Current implementation at least tries to be fair.

Mark W. Alexander, as far as I'm aware, there's no such organization. Each country's postal service has its own zip code system without regard for international uniformity. For example, Russian zip codes map one to one to post offices. I was surprised to find out that it's not like that in other parts of the world. In some countries (UK and iirc Canada) zip codes even contain letters.

2 May 2023 at 13:43
Mark W. Alexander

@grishka @cwebber
You can charge for services and still be not for profit. #ICANN did it for decades.

Which, also, managed domains pretty well for most of the growth of the Internet. It wasn't broke until capitalism shot it in the ass.

2 May 2023 at 14:55 | Open on mas.to
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