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Шуро
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi >There _was_ a "we don't log your IP" claim

And did they log users IP addresses before?

If they did it would be false. If they didn't then their claim would be true until someone forced them to break it so they removed it.

Doesn't seem to be a big deal to me. People just have too much expectations.
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Dr. Quadragon ❌

@shuro Oh. "Your honor, I didn't kill people AT THE TIME... So... Case closed, I'm free to go, right?"

Very weak tea.

@protonmail @rf @arashi

arashi replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌

@drq @shuro @protonmail @rf except that in their case "your honor" is actually the person who signed the warrant to make you do it

Dr. Quadragon ❌ replied to arashi

@arashi No, in this case "your honor" is general public.

@shuro @protonmail @rf

Шуро replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi General public is the public that allowed these laws to exist in the first place.

So yes, basically it is the same "Your Honor".
arashi replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌

@drq @shuro @protonmail @rf oh I wish it was general public who mattered. But it isn't. It's the actual "your honor" that matters. Companies will always listen to the government before they listen to us and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.

Dr. Quadragon ❌ replied to arashi

@arashi No, the "I didn't do despicable things at the time" argument IS the laughing matter.

@shuro @protonmail @rf

arashi replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌

@drq @shuro @protonmail @rf ok this is getting a bit far from the original issue. I guess we said what we had to say on this matter. Draw your own conclusions and adjust your future choices accordingly. Hopefully it'll benefit you. Peace ✌️

Шуро replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi Let's try it another way.

You are Protonmail. You do not collect logs and say so.

Your government comes and says you have to collect data on these accounts, here's the law and the court order.

What will you do?
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi Let's try it another way.

You are Protonmail. You do not collect logs and say so.

Dr. Quadragon ❌ replied to Шуро

@shuro Tell everybody that I failed in my mission, that I can't be trusted and liquidate the company.

@protonmail @rf @arashi

Dr. Quadragon ❌ replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌

@shuro Or at the very least dropped the "praivasee" moniker forever.

@protonmail @rf @arashi

Шуро replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi Are you sure it is the best outcome for general public?

One less protected mail service (Tutanota would also go in 2020), sudden disruption of communication for many, probably having your equipment seized.
Dr. Quadragon ❌ replied to Шуро

@shuro Protected from what? From leaking your data to third party, I assume. Turns out, they aren't.

@protonmail @rf @arashi

Шуро replied to Dr. Quadragon ❌
@drq @protonmail @rf @arashi They still provide e2e encryption working out of the box.

Very few email providers offer it.
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