Gregory's Server@DamienMarieAtHope this is also interesting if you consider nationalist ideals in an oppressed nation. For example, before American independence, was the pride in the ideals of America, a bad thing? Their beloved land, their noble leaders, etc. I think we can value things, and I think extremism in any particular thing is generally bad news.
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@DamienMarieAtHope good points well made, but this is all a bit of this and a bit of that. When looking at the core concept of loving where you live and wanting the best for your neighbours, it only gets bad when you have corruption and inequality, but these are not fundamentals of nationalism, they are products of greed, lust for power, etc. Charity starts at home and all that. We start with love for ourself, then for our neighbour, then country, then other countries, etc.  I have nothing much in common with the rich and powerful of my country. Most of them disgust me. I have more in common with the poor of other nations. The national narrative is bs to benefit the few at the top of a country by praying on the poor and gullible. |
@triadne The ideas sounded good until you read who was not equal, power to the people is a good cause but it was never meant to be an full democracy, not for women or non white men. America was a slave nation and a sexist, racist, and capitalist rich over workers legacy country.