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here's an interesting question. in the days before ubiquitous quartz clock movements, there were mechanical clocks that used a solenoid or a motor to automatically wind up the mainspring. i remember hearing some clocks make a "clunk" sound every few minutes, or a growling sound once or twice a day. anyone remember that?

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i tried a few internet searches for more information, but i immediately got lost in a sea of spam and SEO crap

Frepa

@tubetime Yes! I remember one. It had a small weight which it lifted with a solenoid every few minutes, with a distinct sound, like a sigh. I think it ran on a C battery, 1.5V. I have a feeling the clock might have been made in DDR or East Europe.

The Secretbatcave

@tubetime I think you might have better luck googling “standard electric time company” they made a line of electric windup reference clocks. IBM also made some as well (m.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRO3OA2)

Gents of Leicester make a “clonk” style clock which has a “hip” toggle to control a solenoid that kicks the pendulum. But they are more of a European thing

Mike Hicks

@tubetime Yes, my grandmother had one that would do that. I figure it had something to do with the chime mechanism, but I couldn't say for sure

Schaefer0

@tubetime try googling power wound watchspring

Dantali0n :arch: :i3:

@tubetime this is basically any google search recently, especially when looking to compare products. Just a seo of auto generated and AI content that offers no actual practical information. Will only get worse from.here 🙃

Shrike

@tubetime this beauty winds every 7 and a half minutes or so

Michael Lippold

@tubetime Here’s a video showing the process for a Self Winding Clock Company movement: youtu.be/8l7WNQiCE5U

I know that some IBM master clocks used Telechron motors to wind their mainsprings.

Greg Lloyd

@tubetime You may be thinking of the IBM sychronized clock system, which would ‘clunk’ through the day in school rooms from the 1950’s through 90’s(?)

IBM sold its time equipment business division to Simplex in 1958, but faithful reproductions of the classroom clock design with a modern quartz movement rather than a synchronized master clock are still sold.

#IBM

From IBM’s archive: ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/c

A good article: medium.com/@steveharding_76362

@tubetime You may be thinking of the IBM sychronized clock system, which would ‘clunk’ through the day in school rooms from the 1950’s through 90’s(?)

IBM sold its time equipment business division to Simplex in 1958, but faithful reproductions of the classroom clock design with a modern quartz movement rather than a synchronized master clock are still sold.

Axel Hartmann

@tubetime - I inherited a funky kitchen wall clock that uses a weight swivelling on a toothed quarter circle which drives the mechanical clockwork. At the bottom point, it closes the contact btw. a battery and a solenoid, kicking the weight back up. Happens a few times per minute, but surprisingly irregular.
Current kitchen had no suitable wall space, unfortunately...

neverbeaten

@tubetime No. The pre-quartz mechanical clocks that I remember were AC powered and they used the very reliable 60Hz signal in the power line to keep on time. They would often make a low buzzing sound (likely at 60 or 120Hz).

Jason P 🌈

@tubetime that was a thing. It was used a lot in automotive dashboard clocks too. I think some would re-wind themselves every 10 min or so!

Jason P 🌈

@tubetime they're called self winding clocks I think?
Here's a video of one made by VDO youtu.be/OMxeO4QEyTs

Matt Mullins

@tubetime there's a Self Winding Clock Company master clock in the Connections Museum now :) youtu.be/rLOMltxqCmU

Erik S

@tubetime I remember being in school buildings at non-standard hours and hearing the electric clocks resync, or something.

Attila Kinali

@tubetime That's actually a pretty old system. Way back Harrison already used an automatic rewind system to minimize the difference in rate due to different winding status. Of course, he used weights to drive that, but still.

"Modern" electromechanical pendulum clocks all used a similar system, driven by electromotors. If you go to a clock museum, you will find plenty of those. Later models would use solenoids to directly drive the pendulum, in order to increase the Q factor.

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