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skze

@tillianisafox this is the distinction between plotter and pantser. you can do either extreme, or something in the middle, combining aspects from both.

either you invest the work in careful and elaborate planning,

or you invest it in fixing up the mess you just vomited into your document.

neither of these approaches is better. both can lead to a beautiful result and success, if success is something you care about.

they require different skills. planning is one skill. revising is another. so if you have the skill for writing, don't be surprised if the task of planning and/or the task of revising are a hurdle at first. it doesn't mean you did it wrong, it just means you need to figure out how to actually do it, it takes time and work to learn.

there is no getting around that work, and no getting around learning that skill, but you get to choose whichever process come more easily to you

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@skye the thing is that planning everything out feels overwhelming and just diving in feels stressful because I am afraid of being cringe

skze

@tillianisafox personally I am a hopeless pantser. I plan nothing. I go in with a rough idea about a setting and then I see what happens.

yes, the result you get from that is cringe, it's positively embarrassing, it's chaotic, full of plotholes and contradictions.

so that's the skill of the pantser: turning an objectively miserable first draft into something coherent, readable, and impactful.

you're gonna end up making major plot and world changes, combining, removing or adding characters, deleting or adding entire chapters, removing, introducing or reinventing fundamental plotlines. you're gonna change the rules of the world halfway through and then you have to rewrite everything to make it fix. and all that happens BEFORE you're at a point where you're comfortable showing it to anyone.

for a pantser, revisions need to be drastic and fearless. nothing is sacred. everything can be changed.

the first draft is gonna suck ass. your task is to turn it into something good. that process is gonna take SIGNIFICANTLY longer than the actual writing.

trust the process

@tillianisafox personally I am a hopeless pantser. I plan nothing. I go in with a rough idea about a setting and then I see what happens.

yes, the result you get from that is cringe, it's positively embarrassing, it's chaotic, full of plotholes and contradictions.

so that's the skill of the pantser: turning an objectively miserable first draft into something coherent, readable, and impactful.

skze

@tillianisafox but obviously you can do both. you can plan a little and save some work on the revising end. if you're uncomfortable with both extremes this is the way to go. but I wouldn't know anything about that, lolsob.

mkj

@tillianisafox You don't have to do either-or.

Planning everything out first feels overwhelming? Fine.

Just diving in with no plan at all feels stressful? Fine.

So consider doing SOME planning. Figure out the basics of some of the MAJOR elements of your world. Make a BASIC outline of the journey your hero would like to take, then just MARK good places to insert obstacles. And don't feel compelled to follow the outline if you get better ideas.

No one's first draft is ever perfect. That's OK.

Nathan Lowell

@skye @tillianisafox

Skye's right on the money here.

Some lessons I learned.

1. You will screw it up.
2. You can fix it in the second (or third or fourth) draft
3. If you spend enough time world building, you'll never have to write the story.

The only thing that matters are the words on the page.

Without those, you have no story.

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