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LisPi

@dcoderlt @yogthos The funny thing is, as far as I'm aware, the actual answer to that in HTML is simply frames/framesets/iframes.

Periodic reload also works in iframe documents (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_ref), no need for messing around with headers for specific paths & whatnot (or Javascript).

And while those don't necessarily play well with accessibility, unlike bespoke Javascript nightmares, they're standard features so work to improve support can be done reliably.

7 Apr 2023 at 17:36 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.top
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Yogthos

@lispi314 @dcoderlt I've been using htmx recently, and I find it works extremely well. You have a minimal amount of js on the frontend to handle patching HTML elements, and then you just send parts of the page you want to rerender from the server.

htmx.org/

7 Apr 2023 at 17:56 | Open on mas.to
LisPi

@yogthos @dcoderlt It's certainly an improvement over the heavy frameworks, but the "progressive enhancement" doesn't seem baked into all of its features, so accidentally creating stuff that doesn't degrade gracefully with Javascript disabled seems likely.

7 Apr 2023 at 18:01 | Open on mastodon.top
Yogthos

@lispi314 @dcoderlt yeah that's a potential problem for sure

7 Apr 2023 at 18:01 | Open on mas.to
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