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Mark F. Buckley

@yogthos ... That looks like the spacetime module for a great show on Netflix called Travelers.

Mobile Suit Golem

@yogthos
I cannot believe you would personally attack me like this! (My works not completely static though so I guess I'm safe)

Kenneth

@yogthos i think I’d have gone with “useeffect is really quite elegant”

a

lb às vezes eu me pergunto se não é até bom que seja um pé no saco gerenciar dependências em c++

(isso é uma semi-piada)

Betterifyouneil

@yogthos

Elon's first build of a bottle cap opener WITH government handouts.

"Supply chains are scarce, need to up the price all the way up my 🫏."

Mitsunee | 光音

@yogthos can confirm that this is what my vite setup felt like before @astro made static sites fun again :)

Robin (they/she)

@yogthos pet peeve; when I go to a server and request a document but it sends me a loading screen instead. Ugh! #web2pointwoe

LisPi

@dcoderlt @yogthos The funny thing is, as far as I'm aware, the actual answer to that in HTML is simply frames/framesets/iframes.

Periodic reload also works in iframe documents (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_ref), no need for messing around with headers for specific paths & whatnot (or Javascript).

And while those don't necessarily play well with accessibility, unlike bespoke Javascript nightmares, they're standard features so work to improve support can be done reliably.

Yogthos

@lispi314 @dcoderlt I've been using htmx recently, and I find it works extremely well. You have a minimal amount of js on the frontend to handle patching HTML elements, and then you just send parts of the page you want to rerender from the server.

htmx.org/

LisPi

@yogthos @dcoderlt It's certainly an improvement over the heavy frameworks, but the "progressive enhancement" doesn't seem baked into all of its features, so accidentally creating stuff that doesn't degrade gracefully with Javascript disabled seems likely.

Yogthos

@lispi314 @dcoderlt yeah that's a potential problem for sure

Under destruction

@yogthos Unless there's three more nearby all equally complex, with a new one still actively being build that's the frontrunner choice it's not quite accurate...

Aaron K.

@yogthos The interpreted language that got jealous of compile time.

BearG

@yogthos And the ground coffee goes in here...

❓ucblockhead

@yogthos I once had to create something that showed images we localized and uploaded to a CDN by locale. I created a ten line html file with two lines of JavaScript and a drop-down to change the locale and emailed it to the product people. I swear our resident JavaScript guru practically had an aneurysm.

Yogthos

@ucblockhead it's funny how so many developers have an innate aversion to simple solutions. There's this notion that things need to be complex in order to meet some nebulous definition of 'proper'.

LisPi

@yogthos @ucblockhead It's very strange too, as there's really no sense in making anything any more complex than it needs to be to fulfill a specific design's goals.

Rube Goldberg's machines were supposed to be humoristic, not an example to follow.

Yogthos

@lispi314 @ucblockhead indeed, I find this rather bewildering myself

HE

@yogthos looks like molecular beam epitaxy machine to me

PR ☮ ♥ ♬ 🧑‍💻

@yogthos looks similar to a backend of a Synchrotron / LINAC beam line.

The backend of a Synchrotron LINAC  beam line, Melbourne Synchrotron , 2008. 

Source https://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/albums/72157608372598331
Psentee

@yogthos @psentee also AWS engineers discussing how to serve a website that consists of one static index.html file

Paul

@yogthos Judging by the PPE, they appear to take cable management very seriously.

Waotzi
so simple yet so complex

@astro is my current solution to go with
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