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Kevin Beaumont

Did you know Tesla has cameras both on the outside of vehicles and the inside, and everything is uploaded to Tesla? Anyhoo they’ve been exporting the videos, making memes of customers and then posting them on chat rooms. reuters.com/technology/tesla-w

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Tony Hoyle

@GossiTheDog They *can* upload (ostensibly for AI training) but 99% don't - the bandwidth required to do so would be insane..

No excuses for that video being used for anything other than its intended purpose though..

Kevin Beaumont

@tony finally, only the 1% have a problem :P :D

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@GossiTheDog @tony

No matter what, Telsa cars (and many others, obviously) are surveillance devices of the public space.

Spicewalla

@didek @tony @GossiTheDog

Right. If the owner can't control what does and does not get uploaded, the practical impact is that all of the footage is uploaded.

Stu

@tony @GossiTheDog They don't just phone home when in the vicinity of the owner's wifi?

(Don't own one, no idea if that's a thing)

Tristan Harward

@GossiTheDog never ever ever buying a Tesla, and this gives me new reasons not to use Twitter either…

f4grx Sebastien (OLD ACCOUNT)

@trisweb @GossiTheDog even if you dont, any tesla in our vicinities are spying on us without any way to do anything about that. This is beyond infuriating.

Thorium

@GossiTheDog I wonder how anyone could distrust a statement from such a truthful, upstanding company such as Tesla 💩?

Reeter

@GossiTheDog on top of the internal sharing among Tesla employees, this article also states that having a Tesla seems to allow you to park a camera everywhere you want to spy other people, and retrieve the data afterwards for yourself... What a mess...

Tesla is not yet well implanted here, so that I've never thought about this use case 😅

Tim is wearing a mask 🌈

@Reeter @GossiTheDog
Some countries require clear signage to say video recording is in progress, and who to talk to about it.

Reeter

@spodlife @GossiTheDog Indeed, I just checked in France and it seems that recording on public area is even not allowed by default. Here is an article from @CNIL : cnil.fr/fr/la-videosurveillanc

On top of this, if the records are actually uploaded to Tesla's servers, and if these are outside of Europe, it may be inconsistent with #GPDR

Caçadore Wonton :netscape:
@GossiTheDog Wow, that's fucking retarded, another reason to never buy an electric Jew.
Nick

@GossiTheDog

This looks like a colossal problem, and I hope it causes as much grief as possible for Tesla.

To complete my threat assessment, is there *any* way to tell from the outside if a Tesla is on autopilot?

Marcel Zamzow

@GossiTheDog Where there is a trough the pigs are not far away…

ryan onstott

@GossiTheDog and to think i've been told for 20 years that tech employees would NEVER abuse the data they have access to to make jokes and get revenge

Chris G 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

@GossiTheDog Sadly, I'm not surprised by the reporting given the company is run by a man child. His adolescent behavior is sure to trickle down to all levels. People gotta be crazy to buy those cars.

Jim Parsons

@GossiTheDog @hypervisible

#Tesla's are essentially rolling #Android phones harvesting as much human & device behavioural #data as they can grab

April 2023:
"Special Report: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars" | Reuters
reuters.com/technology/tesla-w

August 2022:
"The Radical Scope of Tesla’s Data Hoard" - IEEE Spectrum
spectrum.ieee.org/tesla-autopi

ALL auto manufacturers now addicted to #surveillance as a "generator of value” at the owner / lessee's expense.

#Privacy

@GossiTheDog @hypervisible

#Tesla's are essentially rolling #Android phones harvesting as much human & device behavioural #data as they can grab

April 2023:
"Special Report: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars" | Reuters
reuters.com/technology/tesla-w

CynBlogger™️

@GossiTheDog
Do unethical shitheads who lack integrity of any sort only hire unethical shitheads lacking the same?

What a corporate culture…

Benjamin Sonntag-King 🐙

@GossiTheDog allo ? la CNIL ?

roonnnnn, pscchiiiiitt....

allo ??

f4grx Sebastien (OLD ACCOUNT)

@vincib @GossiTheDog tu parles... Ils ont meme pas le temps de s'occuper de toutes les plaintes d' @aeris ...

Cykonot

@GossiTheDog who knew the most profitable part of surveillance capitalism would be blackmail and corporate espionage? Who could possibly imagine seeing such a thing coming?

TootUncommon

@GossiTheDog

Moral of the Story: if you're going to blow $110,000 on a car but only $10 on a hooker, just spend the extra 50 and get a room.

You don't wanna be THAT meme.

Sam Wronski

@GossiTheDog Didn't a bunch of ride share companies partner with them? How does this impact their privacy policies and compliance with that?

wendinaokland

@GossiTheDog @Extra_Special_Carbon
I don’t understand why people don’t protect their own privacy. If the vehicle can see them through their windows, surely anyone else could as well. We live in an exceptionally surveilled society - at least those of us using phones and computers and living around cities. This seems a lot of misplaced paranoia.

Personne

@GossiTheDog Here for the popcorns. This will end well.

tessarakt

@GossiTheDog VW had to pay quite some money for not properly documenting the processing of videos from test cars.

kierkegaank

@GossiTheDog Teslas are ugly, overly expensive, and cheap looking too

Thomas H Jones II

@GossiTheDog Clarence Thomas is a living argument for forcible removal by any means necessary.

bird-shirted puzzle baby

@GossiTheDog yikes a million but every single customer-based company's employees do this internally and it is fucked up and sociopathic beyond belief

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@GossiTheDog kevin so if people in the car are under 40 years old you could have an 8 hour feed watching them look at their phone, not saying anything or moving. you wouldn't know if it was live or not. hahh

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@GossiTheDog @blacktraffic

Send this article to your #Tesla driving friends. I just did.

#Musk

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@GossiTheDog KEV, ALREADY THOUGHT OF THAT SO I PUT A FEED OF TAWNY KITAN IN THE WHITE SNAKE video is this love while she crawls around on the car. i made it a tesla after than i have lets just say i don't need dates on friday anymore.

Zombiesheepx

@GossiTheDog "A spokesperson for the FTC said it doesn’t comment on individual companies or their conduct."... must be nice to be a company and not have that information shared... 😏

Beau Jàgr/Thoughty

@GossiTheDog tbh this kind of shit is one of my worst nightmares, as having a car was a big part of gaining my freedom growing up, and in spite of multiple car accidents, cars are still probably where I feel safest - but part of why I needed that safety and freedom was domestic surveillance by my parents and family, so damaging that is awful to me! I couldn't afford a Tesla, but I hope this gets regulated fast (we live in the US tho sooooo 😭).

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@thoughty @GossiTheDog Another reason why I'll likely be forced to buy and drive historical cars in the future only...

All that #spyware & #govware shit like those #eCall #tracking devices are a #WontBuy for me...

Even if I denied the possibility for getting Hastings'd by someone...
mstdn.social/@kkarhan/11015293

Kara Danvers :transbutterfly: :pride: :pro:

@GossiTheDog i always till people, unless its a off the internet nvr/camera, always assume someone, somewhere, is always watching.

specially if you use them cameras you download an app to use.

James

@GossiTheDog I can totally imagine Elon sharing compromising images of people he doesn’t like with reporters and trolls.

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@GossiTheDog Do they know that's illegal and a violation of #GDPR & #BDSG since they neither declared it nor provided people with legal custodian details nor retention period and effective opt-out to it?

Cuz last time I checked this was more illegal than uploading unpiixelated raw footage with coordinates from dashcams in Germany, cuz unlike someone submitting their recordings in public with their voices exclusively, this is done without informed consent at all!

I hope @bfdi will look at it...

Rhombus Ticks

@GossiTheDog I would say something about Elon but Universodon doesnt allow criticism of Elon or Amber Heard.

ToolHub

@GossiTheDog Please tell me this is not real and a late April 1st Joke. 😡

billy joe bowers - Harris2024

@GossiTheDog

Anything that has the ability to steal your data and privacy, will steal your data and privacy.

Jester 🪓

@GossiTheDog went with a #VW #EV because #Tesla is run by a man-child. We pretty much decided to rule out Tesla when Elon decided his cars should be able to make fart sounds.

Lonewolf

@GossiTheDog didn't the same thing happen with roomba when someone found memes of them on the toilet

Matt Stein

@GossiTheDog This is news to me and yet I’m overflowing with not-surprise.

be3n

@GossiTheDog @briankrebs is this counter to the Owners Manuel? or are these users who enabled sharing?

Kevin Beaumont

@be3n @briankrebs I think that's specific to the cabin camera, right?

DeanBaker13

@GossiTheDog That's pretty incredible. Does Tesla tell its customers that they are recording everything they do for future use?

Eli the Bearded

@GossiTheDog "Sentry" mode makes me furious. Walking dogs I see these cars flash their headlights as the film me walking by. Fuckig asshole owners

Andrew Crocker

@GossiTheDog I don't see anything in the article about interior cameras, or their data being uploaded to Tesla.

All of this seems to be about the exterior cameras.

Kevin Beaumont

@bikesnacks interior camera can also upload, if opt'd in.

Andrew Crocker

@GossiTheDog fair enough, I just didn't see any mention in the article of interior shots being passed around

Chris

@GossiTheDog

Very creepy. It also makes me think about Tony Soprano saying he ripped all of the OnStar equipment out of his car in an episode of "The Sopranos."

Just think if a divorce attorney subpoenas Tesla footage from a spouse.

EarthOne

@GossiTheDog Why am I not surprised? Imagine what they taped going on in and around their vehicles besides traffic.

CB Uí Foghlú

@GossiTheDog have you seen this @Tupp_ed ? Surely it's a GDPR breach if they're doing it within the EU?

Judy Gressel

@GossiTheDog Wow! Sounds like Tesla is about as secure as the trashy bird site.

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