Gregory's Server@tallship @Gargron @peepstein @blaine Of course, the "Fediverse" (whatever that is, exactly) is not just powered by ActivityPub. For example, there is Diaspora, Matrix, Nostr, Zot, and so on. Of the part that is powered by some variant of ActivityPub, Mastodon has about 84% marketshare according to the statistics gatherers. That may be why it's so easy to conflate the two? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking
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The @Mastodon and #Fediverse confusion is partly due to the fact that Mastodon only supports the Server-Server aspect of #ActivityPub while using its own #API for Client-Server interactions. Net effect, it has the lions share of clients generally perceived as Fediverse clients -- which is a strategic point of vulnerability over the longterm, IMHO. @kidehen @Mastodon @tallship @Gargron @peepstein @blaine @atomicpoet Interesting point. If the "Fediverse" is about federation then the S2S aspect of #ActivityPub enables that federation, not the AP C2S part (which doesn't even require a federated server). For that reason, I think clients using the Mastodon C2S API are actually Fediverse clients (among others). If you'd like a challenging exercise, try defining the full Mastodon C2S API using the AP C2S spec (including event streaming, etc.) Yes, Server-Server (#S2S) is handling the federation aspect, but it gets tripped up in the broader sense of loose-coupling of clients and servers which is quite important. The #Fediverse benefits from clients with rich #UI/#UX available to all #ActivityPub servers rather than just @Mastodon -- especially if that's kinda forced via its platform-specific #API. This concern is from experience re #SocialMedia platform dynamics 😀 |
@steve,
To preform the following actions, in loosely-coupled fashion, across #SocialMedia enclaves (or #DataSpaces) you need an open protocol (what #ActivityPub offers):
1. Create Posts (or Notes)
2. Follow Post (or Note) Authors
3. Like or UnLike a Post
4. Announce (or Boost) a Post
5. Delete Post
The collective arising from ActivityPub usage is the #Fediverse.
Mastodon has made the above both popular and broadly accepted.
/cc @tallship @Gargron @peepstein @blaine @atomicpoet
@steve,
To preform the following actions, in loosely-coupled fashion, across #SocialMedia enclaves (or #DataSpaces) you need an open protocol (what #ActivityPub offers):
1. Create Posts (or Notes)
2. Follow Post (or Note) Authors
3. Like or UnLike a Post
4. Announce (or Boost) a Post
5. Delete Post
The collective arising from ActivityPub usage is the #Fediverse.