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Chris Trottier

Yes, I think TikTok should be banned.

I also think Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, Snapchat, Pinterest, YouTube, and Reddit should be banned.

Anything that requires surveillance capitalism should be banned.

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Chris Trottier

Some people are like, “Build better consumer protections for data privacy.”

No, you need something far stronger than “protections”.

It should be downright illegal for any company or entity to track, file, catalogue, serialize, or index anyone without their explicit consent.

Viss

@atomicpoet companies hoarde user data.

that attracts attackers like flies

nobody cares about security, they all get breached

execs still get bonuses, their compensation mostly reflects market performance and stock price, not actual security.

maybe a congressional hearing

nobody gets punished, nobody gets fired, eventually the story fades

20 goto 10

Chris Trottier

Further, no company or entity should own your social presence, identity, or social graph.

Nobody’s life should be deemed as an asset or property of someone else.

Chris Trottier

I am not a conduit of personal data that exists to be mined.

I am a human being.

Chris Trottier

When I talk to another human being, I see a human being.

Big Social sees a vector for data that’s exploitable.

Why do we allow Big Social to exist?

Fábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕

@atomicpoet I'm saying all around... If outros is really worried about surveillance by China via TikTok, they should avoid all the other platforms if even only 1/10th Edward Snowden said is truth

Laure

@atomicpoet everyone is saying the new #Utah laws go too far. They do. But #social platforms are to blame for building the most addictive algorithms and doing nothing to protect children from dangerous often inauthentically pushed scam trends.
#socialmedia

The Blue Blurr

@atomicpoet With YouTube specifically, I feel like the sheer volume of content, whether entertaining or educational, would be a logistical impossibility to store (at least, for now) without something like alphabet inc. owning it. I feel like a good bandage for the time being though is using different front-ends, like invidious, to get rid of the surveillance tracking & ads. As for the rest…
Let them burn. (If you have a different opinion please let me know, genuinely curious what your thoughts are.)

DELETED

@atomicpoet
Most companies see something to exploit. If you are filling an unmet need, you are exploiting that need. Unless you are using exploit to mean taking advantage.

Victoria is still wearing mask

@atomicpoet

Not all people aware of this data and privacy. They literally just see big social as a way to meet others and promoting your work. And some who knew, think they have no other way but to join the mainstream.

Things have grown to the point there's no such thing as privacy and holy data.

DELETED

@atomicpoet Late stage capitalism and people earning profits off of their echo chambers.

🍸Pooka🥕Boo🍸

@atomicpoet Humans are social animals. The storytellers myth of the rugged individual is just that, a Hollywood myth. Sure, anecdotally, you can find some that would prefer solitude for various reasons. And, that's ok. But the majority of humans need other humans.

Tofu Golem

@atomicpoet
I have another one.

Facebook and Twitter supposedly get funded by taking our private data and selling it to anyone willing to pay for it. Supposedly, this is why their services are free.

This business model turned out to be bad, so now they are looking for ways to charge us money.

If they are charging us money, why do we allow them to sell our private data? They are making us pay to get exploited.

EarthMomma

@atomicpoet

Who knew it wouldnt be a good idea to have every single person that owns a social media account to pour their heart and soul out along with all their opinions and daily schedules, their kids, their relatives, their dogs, their holidays, their new purchases, their dates and spouses, the deaths in their family and all that other stuff online where the individual person may not be at risk, but they are, with full intention, adding to the basic volumes of info available by country.

People are like "Spies dont care about me"

Yea, you are right, but when you couple that information with the information of literally millions of people, the intel becomes spectacular.

So are they spying on YOU, no. But you add to the database of what they know about us every time we post.

@atomicpoet

Who knew it wouldnt be a good idea to have every single person that owns a social media account to pour their heart and soul out along with all their opinions and daily schedules, their kids, their relatives, their dogs, their holidays, their new purchases, their dates and spouses, the deaths in their family and all that other stuff online where the individual person may not be at risk, but they are, with full intention, adding to the basic volumes of info available by country.

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@atomicpoet Esta Cobaia, concorda convosco, sem tirar, nem acrescentar.

coolmccool

@atomicpoet And to package up and sell your info for $$

kechpaja

@atomicpoet I more or less agree (you of course have to make exception to account for the fact that individuals can’t be expected to forget information on request). I would also explicitly extend this to governments as well.

Matt Terenzio

@atomicpoet I don't trust the government to make laws that wouldn't stifle other free and open parts of the web. They are already heading that way.

Rob Stahlnecker

@atomicpoet I don’t think they require surveillance they just do it to maximize profits. You could still choose to target ads based on what people willingly share but that’s not as valuable.

Nathan Sparrow :verified:

@atomicpoet Snowden has warned us and the world but capitalism wanted him prosecuted. 🤷

Mori

@atomicpoet I have a personal ban on most of these, barring YT sadly. But YT is used in it’s own seperate browser where nothing else is ever done and which has all the standard privacy and security features enabled. They’ll be getting something from me, but not everything, and I like to think not much (thought I’m sure it’s more than I expect).

Dixzy

@atomicpoet LinkedIn is easily my #1 source of spam and unsolicited emails

Martin Vermeer FCD

@atomicpoet The most direct way would be to ban all advertising on social media. I know I know, never gonna happen.

Fred Brooker

@atomicpoet and then turn off the internet and jump up on the trees again :)

happyborg

@atomicpoet
I sympathize but don't think bans make sense. They are centralised control, authoritarian and anti everyone else, which is of course why those services aren't banned or even inhibited by laws and regulation.

I think the approach needs to be to empower us as individuals and communities with alternative services, and to do that we need to #decentralized but I don't think #federation will prove adequate.

My hope is for robust secure #p2p solutions that are easier to adopt and use.

@atomicpoet
I sympathize but don't think bans make sense. They are centralised control, authoritarian and anti everyone else, which is of course why those services aren't banned or even inhibited by laws and regulation.

I think the approach needs to be to empower us as individuals and communities with alternative services, and to do that we need to #decentralized but I don't think #federation will prove adequate.

Diamond Joy (Dogs for Harris!)

@atomicpoet Saw a post from a serious techie about not banning platforms outright, the old "If you don't want the Chinese govt knowing what you're doing, don't download Tik Tok. It's an individual choice. US platforms are just as bad."

Well, let's bury our heads in the sand and pretend the Chinese govt is a good-faith actor in ANY regard to sm. Phone cameras can be turned on at will and monitored. If I'm in the same room with the individual who has TT, they have access to me too.

HistoPol (#HP)

@atomicpoet

Yes, and at least with regard to #Facebook, this IMO should be the death knell in a country with real rule of law; the leaks are just unbelievable:
mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1100

Raquel 👉🏼🏳️‍⚧️👈🏼

@atomicpoet
They all collect your data from everyone. So yeah, same same. Probably bring the stress level back to more sane levels across the planet instantly… except for the ones seeking to control you.

Jo Jitsu

@atomicpoet Knowledge is literally power. I did a podcast on Maxwell's Demon and Data Wars in 2019, an information/physics theory by James Clerk Maxwell most scientists considered 'impossible' but big data and surveillance have changed that, and my theory is this is what they are intending & building to have total control over people through information.
podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sho

#privacy #data #knowledgeispower #maxwellsdemon #physics #surveillance

@atomicpoet Knowledge is literally power. I did a podcast on Maxwell's Demon and Data Wars in 2019, an information/physics theory by James Clerk Maxwell most scientists considered 'impossible' but big data and surveillance have changed that, and my theory is this is what they are intending & building to have total control over people through information.
podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sho

Piousunyn

@atomicpoet

Wait, I like Reddit, because it makes me appreciate Mastodon even more.

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