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Oblomov

@atomicpoet @maegul I should be able to read an Article from my Fediverse client regardless of what my server platform thinks about it. I should likewise be able to receive (and see) any kind of object sent by people I subscribe to regardless of my server platform capability to handle it. AP servers shouldn't be the ones responsible for deciding which object types and attributes the user has access to. That should be the client's responsibility.

12 Mar 2023 at 7:23 | Wall-to-wall | Open on sociale.network
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Chris Trottier replied to Oblomov
Johannes Ernst replied to Chris

@atomicpoet@mastodon.social @oblomov@sociale.network @maegul@hachyderm.io mastodon right now is used both a server-only for separate (mostly mobile) clients, and a server+client web app. Historically it has mostly been the second. The growth right now is in the first. It will have to decide which one it wants to be growing up, because I don’t think it can excel at both.

12 Mar 2023 at 7:38 | Open on social.coop
Oblomov replied to Johannes

@atomicpoet @maegul
@J12t
This wouldn't even be a problem per se, if not for the fact that the two sides are very tightly coupled. Ideally, the two sides should be completely decoupled, and the server should —for the most part— only act as passthrough, with the objects getting passed to the client (and to other servers when posted) essentially unchanged. Also, ideally all information should be available through AP, rather than platform-specific APIs.

12 Mar 2023 at 8:01 | Open on sociale.network
Johannes Ernst replied to Oblomov

@oblomov @atomicpoet @maegul Naturally, said the architect. And then we have software in the real world :-) Mastodon was written as a plain normal rails web app, and that, I believe, was the right and perhaps only way that could have gotten us to the good place where we all find ourselves today. The question is where it wants to go. (I’m going to take the liberty of cc’ing @Gargron just in case…)

12 Mar 2023 at 8:06 | Open on social.coop
Chris Trottier replied to Johannes

@J12t @oblomov @maegul @Gargron People have been trying to make decentralized social media happen for nearly 20 years now.

We can all talk about how Mastodon could be better till we're blue in the face. The fact is that Mastodon has created a halo effect on other server software too.

In other words, Mastodon's growth is Friendica's growth too.

For real. Look at this chart. In September, Friendica was little more than 250 nodes. Now it's nearing 400.
12 Mar 2023 at 8:17 | Open on mastodon.social
Chris Trottier replied to Chris

@J12t @oblomov @maegul @Gargron For the sake of comparison, let's look at diaspora's growth.

It went from 115 nodes in September to 117 nodes in September. Now imagine how much more growth it could have if it simply integrated ActivityPub.

So again, while diaspora's devs bemoaned lack of uniformity and usability, few people are using it -- and it can't speak to the rest of the Fediverse.

There's a reason why we're here and not there.
12 Mar 2023 at 8:21 | Open on mastodon.social
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