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Devil Lu Linvega

Every new topic on HN about virtual machines ends up pitting Uxn against others. What sort of backward mindset is that, why does it have to be a competition for the one true VM that will rule above all others, do people think this is Highlander.

The whole point of Uxn is to inspire people to make their own take on what their ideal personal computer can be, not to centralize all VM works onto a single target. Monoculture of architecture is what this is trying to cut through.

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テオ

@neauoire “there can be only one” 😂
If you ever start a list of alternatives that your project inspired add me to the list.

Kartik Agaram

@neauoire I've grown to hate the phrase "more interesting", but that also leads to some self-hate for how often I catch myself using it. I've grown up immersed in this capitalist milieu, and it's very hard to deprogram my instincts to see everything as a competition.

WimⓂ️

@neauoire @akkartik In Britain, "interesting" is an essential world. When a British person says "Very interesting", what really they mean is "That's nonsense".

Job

@neauoire But how can haters construct straw people against your project if you don't even let them project their own values onto it? So mean, Devine, so mean.

art (game) fan

@neauoire

i blame capitalism for people being unable to open their minds to a future where all activity is not centered around acquiring as much coin as possible ...

(blame may not be placed completely accurately)

we're going to need all the imagination we can muster to make a (better) future for ourselves

WimⓂ️

@neauoire Maybe you are the victim of your success. Instead of writing their own VM, people want to target Uxn. And people who envy you will find some way to criticise it. Take no notice.

Kototama

@neauoire I know the true VM however, it's one with a very very long tape ;-)

Kototama

@neauoire oh true this is also Turing complete, I'm not super verse in CS theory but this looks indeed more elegant

calutron

@neauoire Is it because it's unusual to think of making software as personal tools instead of for a broad audience of non-experts?

Devil Lu Linvega

@calutron Yes, it's a bit unusual to tell people that they don't need software shops, and that they can make their own tools.

Making things seem complex when they are simple, is the best trick of all. It makes for subservient customers who think they need your products.

There seems to be two schools of thoughts:

- One that goes: the more users think alike, the easier they are to market to.
- Another that goes: the more diversely people think, the more resilient a community is.

@calutron Yes, it's a bit unusual to tell people that they don't need software shops, and that they can make their own tools.

Making things seem complex when they are simple, is the best trick of all. It makes for subservient customers who think they need your products.

There seems to be two schools of thoughts:

calutron

@neauoire I wonder if it's because software doesn't have easily readable "DIY" signifiers. Like if I see a.....house made out of.....tires... it intuitively reads like a personal vision. I don't think "This person thinks all houses should be made out of tires."

Devil Lu Linvega

@calutron Could be, a lot of the DIY software culture relies on a monoculture of frameworks, so it makes for software that very much looks and fells like commercial equivalents.

But it feels like that's by design, it's like a lot of things, keeping people scared and ignorant benefits markets.

It's like that for a lot of things these days, don't learn plumbing, you're going to kill yourself and flood your house and your won't be insured! Software's the same.

calutron

@neauoire Yeah that makes sense. I think people see things as products unless you explicitly frame it otherwise, like: archive.org/details/How.To.Bui

leah & asm & forth, oh my!

@neauoire yes... that's exactly what they think - that VMs are a zero sum game, and developing on of your own means every other one is a little less popular than it could be

jollyrogue

@neauoire People have a hard time with the concept of rejecting infinite scope and accepting things might have a small scope and become feature complete.

@wim_v12e

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