@dysmento @tobyink there certainly are places for expert interfaces, and no UI is bad or good without anchoring such a judgement to a purpose. A violin is a solidly horrible UI for anyone unfamiliar with it. It is a deeply unintuitive interface. But since a violin’s purpose typically doesn’t include any random novice using it well within 5 minutes, that’s ok. But it remains an awful music creation interface for a novice.