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𝖆𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔴 :enby_rebel:

@forrestbrazeal I said AIOps a few days ago, and suggested it'd make a DNS / routing change and neuter itself and that'll be the end of that.

@amyengineer

Its Gregory

@forrestbrazeal #ChatGPT is currently tied with APIs harvesting images for clandestine NFTs sale of artists/photographers unauthorized use and who might promote their craft online

OpenDNA⚙️

@forrestbrazeal
DevOps: I understand it and can make it do what I want but I can't explain it easily.

AIOps: Literally no human understands it but we hope it does what we want.

narylis
@forrestbrazeal accurate except for the subtle detail that in reality, all three engineers in the last panel are the same engineer, who has been asked by their superior to do the work of three engineers after the happy non-engineer made a hash of things by selling the second panel to upper management
Actualeyes

@forrestbrazeal

XZIBIT: Yo Dawg, I heard you like devops. So I installed an AI to create some microservices YAGN to manage some microservices YAGN!

Joseph Holsten

@forrestbrazeal “ModelOps” is a real term. It’s at least as complex and interesting as managing config delivery and consistency across a system.

tekhedd

@forrestbrazeal As a developer and musician I have strong feelings about copyright, but reading the phrase "unauthorized use" in conjunction with "NFT" makes me laugh every time.

Peters J Vecrumba

@forrestbrazeal
As someone who debugged their first program in 1970 I think and wrote operating system code without a debugger because there was not enough memory to fit the debugger, and watched the evolution of IT (have you noticed everything that starts with a capital letter and ends with "aaS" pronounced "ass"), I can only say: "Yup!"

Joseph P.

@forrestbrazeal lol but this cartoon is wrong though , ai already makes coding easier including by referencing entire code bases 🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

John Ogden

@forrestbrazeal

You missed the cartoon AI salesman carrying off an enormous bag of cash in the background

Becky

@forrestbrazeal This is literally what happens every time there is a "tool that allows the business people to make software without programmers" gets invented.

Becky

@sabik @forrestbrazeal
I wouldn't personally think of Excel as a tool for making software, more like a creative tool, like iMovie for numbers. When I've seen Excel spreadsheets grow to the "system" level, then things definitely hit the sad engineers have to redo everything phase. Things can get ugly at that point very quickly.

Jeremy Kahn

@forrestbrazeal as one of the sad engineers in figures A and C, I love this and I want to boost it
...and I don't have time to write the alt text

Bornach

@trochee @forrestbrazeal
Just ask an AI to fill in the ALT Text for you. What could possibly go wrong?

Jigen

@forrestbrazeal I'm still hoping for 'light touch' AI future, Intellisense at least, Clippy at most.

Hugh Ferguson

@forrestbrazeal yep....very likely scenario but because AI is in the mix, pointy haired boss will want to pay Dilbert less.

Christian Kent

@forrestbrazeal @seldo I mean, this — but for IDEs

I used to “program” and execute on the command line, which I why the only coding I ever do these days is shell and python 😓

Christian Kent

@forrestbrazeal @seldo I don’t mind if AI can optimise my python code

Frankly I’ll even do the hard work of writing unit tests — GOOD ONES

There we go, finally — an AI that’s useful

Christian Kent

@forrestbrazeal @seldo did I say “writing” unit tests? I mean designing them. I’d like help with the harnesses, if that’s not too much to ask. Maybe it is.

rastilin

@forrestbrazeal

One of the best parts of ChatGPT is that it can help tutor you in stuff, like having a professor that doesn't get tired of stupid questions. So the old pile of complexity will be far more manageable.

Bornach

@rastilin @forrestbrazeal
ChatGPT's token window is far too narrow to be able to analyse the complexity of today's modern systems

Great at exam question style programming problems, but try asking it to program something modestly bigger even on a simple retro 8 bit platform...
youtu.be/t2fnlxXK0f8

Benoît Valiron

@forrestbrazeal #AltForYou
Panel 1: current situation. Sad engineer next to a dirty pile of complexity (language, toolchain, infra). The pile is in the way to the sought app.

Panel 2 : what people think AI will do. Happy engineer contemplation an AI cloud magically hiding the pile of complexity.

Panel 3 : what is actually going to happen. Sad engineers in front of 2 piles of complexity: one for AI ( AI pipelines, templates, etc), leading to the other, unhidden, language pile.

murmulis

@forrestbrazeal Most artists are doomed though. AI art is schockingly good already and it will only get better.

ysb33r

@murmulis @forrestbrazeal as someone in the insurance industry told me. When we had the old systems, we had a complex bunch of rules that we could figure out what they were doing.

Now we use AI and we have no idea how these models work.

Boekenwuurm

@forrestbrazeal finally a comic about my current work! (under "sadder engineer") XD

Ice of spades

@forrestbrazeal what would the middle panel look like irl if it did happen?

daviddahl

@forrestbrazeal

Imagine the typical JS toolchain here. Sigh.

David Crooks 🏳️‍🌈

@forrestbrazeal @bigzaphod “Wait, did I just hear someone suggest just adding another layer of abstraction!?”

Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar

@forrestbrazeal It's a subplot of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Deepne where the ancient hacker can break all the new tech because he's such a relic that he still understands the underlying technology it's all built on, which the current generation of techies have completely detached themselves from, operating so many layers of abstraction higher than him that they can't begin to understand how he could have possibly undermined all their fancy gadgets so completely.

Mx. Eddie R

@forrestbrazeal
Please don't say words like that out in public. tech journalists, or worse VCs might hear you and get excited, then we're all in trouble.

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