Gregory's Server@georgetakei The rule with the right is “you’re whatever gender lets us hurt you more right now.”
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@moira @georgetakei 100% this. The right has demonized trans people because they’re a scapegoat they don’t think has support. Notice they’ve backed off on blacks and Jews for the nonce. @seano @moira @georgetakei but we DON'T have support in many areas. Just a couple years ago, I remember so many LGBTQIA folk saying "Cancel Pride - George Floyd is more important." And we marched with those protests instead. We were, and ARE, allies. I'm extremely disappointed that the "liberal" media (and, sadly, many communities of color) seem to have forgotten that now that the attention of the fascist alt-right have shifted to us. @Freedom2B @seano @moira @georgetakei I assume you're assuming I'm racist. Being mixed-race, I don't think that I am; but my family-of-color is homophobic AF, so maybe I have a bias. I'm mostly disappointed that the people we proudly supported have seemed to have forgotten we exist. All communities, regardless of source of origin, are made of people (and people kinda suck). My friends from Africa experience Colorism here, and my friends from India still experience Caste-ism here.  @RamenCatholic @Freedom2B @seano @moira @georgetakei I find it very sad when a minority that is still discriminated goes and discriminates against another minority. I think that at some point of being discriminated people feel entitled to discrimination and start to just do the same. The goal is to all work together to make sure no one is discriminated against, whether it is a positive or negative discrimination @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I would argue the problem is you consider yourself an "ally". Or others are "allies". You are not, and they are not. You are front line soldiers. You stand shoulder to shoulder with the repressed and victimized, or you stand with the victimizers. Any discrimination harms us ALL, not just the temporary target of the moment. The liberal media is not on our side. @patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei , Exactly, and we are all in that list, even me, a middle aged white CIS heterosexual male. I may be far down on that list, but unless I stand shoulder to shoulder with everyone else, they come for me too. I am not an ally. I am on the front lines. Just like everyone else who is not in the club that is the oligarchy. @JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I’m a 53 year old white dude. I’m not lgbtq. I’m not a person of color. I can only partially grasp the life of those. I’m trying (like you I think) to raise us all not punch the weakest. @patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei , I would argue that the weakest of us is those who are afraid of small immigrant women in congress, or guys picking grapes, or working in chicken factories, or Asians, or women in general. And it's perfectly fine to punch those weaklings. You can recognize them by red hats or waving with their elbows locked. @JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei the strongest people never claim to be “alpha” They don’t need to. People know strong people and that doesn’t mean the person who can assault the most. @patricklee @JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei The strongest people are undeniably those who bring us into this world to little or no acknowledgment or fanfare. Then there are the unsung and marginalized people who fight for what's right and go entirely unseen. People who talk about their own strength and the weakness of others are almost always weak and trying to compensate. @JonKramer @patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I'm a middle-aged, straight, white, cis man but I'm a liberal and the father of young women. There is not one bit of truth to the arguments being presented by right wing reactionaries. They are all liars who realize they're wrong but will lie, cheat, and steal to maintain dominance. They've done such a poor things of running things thus far. It's time for women and minorities to have a say. Enough is enough. @JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei Not sufficiently, at least. They have this bs idea of "neutrality" that makes absolutely no sense. When it comes to fascism there is no neutrality. When it comes to supporting democracy and equality there is no neutrality. One is either fighting for or against whether they realize it or not. "Neutral" always favors the fascists.  @sabik @seano @moira In general, it is hard to see oppressions you are not the target of, so it is never useful to assume that your oppressions are worse than others'. White Christian supremacy targets different people differently. Some through police, some through Healthcare, some through simmering conspiracies and mistrust. Trans folks are targeted. So are a lot of other groups. they really haven't backed off tho. speak on this, but leave others out your mouth, esp if it ain't your experience. @seano @moira @georgetakei everyone here seems to be blaming "the right" but it goes well beyond. the centre and even the left are regularly transphobic, whether through inaction (ie: they don't set up protections for us, they don't expand our access to healthcare) when they hold power, or active harm that rivals the way we're treated by fascists ("i support trans people but what if lebron james was in womens sports??????")  @briellebouquet @seano @georgetakei Didn't say it was exclusive to the right, just said it was the _rule_ with the right. Centre and left, there are other possibilities. Not certainties. Just possibilities. @moira @seano @georgetakei in terms of centre and left establishment? they pretty consistently, at best, do absolutely nothing to protect us or expand our healthcare to match the rest of the population. the right is worse. but i'm tired of seeing racism and transphobia blamed on the right. the right can't get away with this shit without inaction and tacit support from centrist and even left leaning politics that give them the power to turn their hatred into laws. @briellebouquet @moira @seano @georgetakei i’ve seen leftists do “whichever gender lets us hurt you more”, I definitely do not assume that centre or left are not hostile towards trans people- openly hostile, pretend tolerance, just plain toxic apathy (by far the most abundant) to very very very rare trans allies- not to be mistaken for “allies” who will pay lip service to trans acceptance but tell us we’re overreacting when we point out obvious transphobia. @briellebouquet @moira @seano @georgetakei to most cis folk, trans people being treated like garbage is just the normal status quo and the only thing they will consider to be “real” transphobia is physical violence… maybe, if they don’t assume we provoked it somehow @moira @georgetakei iiiiiiiiiiit's not just the right. you're correct otherwise though. there's regular misogyny that they'll happily apply to us, and then there's the bonus transmisogyny on top. |
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