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RamenCatholic 🐒 🌈

@seano @moira @georgetakei but we DON'T have support in many areas.

Just a couple years ago, I remember so many LGBTQIA folk saying "Cancel Pride - George Floyd is more important." And we marched with those protests instead.

We were, and ARE, allies.

I'm extremely disappointed that the "liberal" media (and, sadly, many communities of color) seem to have forgotten that now that the attention of the fascist alt-right have shifted to us.

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RamenCatholic 🐒 🌈

@Freedom2B @seano @moira @georgetakei I assume you're assuming I'm racist. Being mixed-race, I don't think that I am; but my family-of-color is homophobic AF, so maybe I have a bias.

I'm mostly disappointed that the people we proudly supported have seemed to have forgotten we exist.

All communities, regardless of source of origin, are made of people (and people kinda suck). My friends from Africa experience Colorism here, and my friends from India still experience Caste-ism here.

Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

@RamenCatholic @Freedom2B @seano @moira @georgetakei

I find it very sad when a minority that is still discriminated goes and discriminates against another minority. I think that at some point of being discriminated people feel entitled to discrimination and start to just do the same.

The goal is to all work together to make sure no one is discriminated against, whether it is a positive or negative discrimination

JonKramer

@RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I would argue the problem is you consider yourself an "ally". Or others are "allies". You are not, and they are not. You are front line soldiers. You stand shoulder to shoulder with the repressed and victimized, or you stand with the victimizers. Any discrimination harms us ALL, not just the temporary target of the moment.

The liberal media is not on our side.

JonKramer

@patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei , Exactly, and we are all in that list, even me, a middle aged white CIS heterosexual male. I may be far down on that list, but unless I stand shoulder to shoulder with everyone else, they come for me too. I am not an ally. I am on the front lines. Just like everyone else who is not in the club that is the oligarchy.

Patricklee

@JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I’m a 53 year old white dude. I’m not lgbtq. I’m not a person of color. I can only partially grasp the life of those. I’m trying (like you I think) to raise us all not punch the weakest.

JonKramer

@patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei , I would argue that the weakest of us is those who are afraid of small immigrant women in congress, or guys picking grapes, or working in chicken factories, or Asians, or women in general. And it's perfectly fine to punch those weaklings. You can recognize them by red hats or waving with their elbows locked.

Patricklee

@JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei the strongest people never claim to be β€œalpha”

They don’t need to.

People know strong people and that doesn’t mean the person who can assault the most.

Bokono

@patricklee @JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei The strongest people are undeniably those who bring us into this world to little or no acknowledgment or fanfare. Then there are the unsung and marginalized people who fight for what's right and go entirely unseen. People who talk about their own strength and the weakness of others are almost always weak and trying to compensate.

Bokono

@JonKramer @patricklee @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei I'm a middle-aged, straight, white, cis man but I'm a liberal and the father of young women. There is not one bit of truth to the arguments being presented by right wing reactionaries. They are all liars who realize they're wrong but will lie, cheat, and steal to maintain dominance. They've done such a poor things of running things thus far. It's time for women and minorities to have a say. Enough is enough.

Bokono

@JonKramer @RamenCatholic @seano @moira @georgetakei Not sufficiently, at least. They have this bs idea of "neutrality" that makes absolutely no sense. When it comes to fascism there is no neutrality. When it comes to supporting democracy and equality there is no neutrality. One is either fighting for or against whether they realize it or not. "Neutral" always favors the fascists.

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