Gregory's Serverif you want to get a sense of some of the impact of this change, just look at the quote tweets 💔
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 Thank you for your valuable input. We will forward it to our most competent recycle bin and remain with warmest regards. @carsten on the contrary; it reached precisely the target i planned. and now do kindly make use of that block button. @carsten @molly0xfff One of the larger crossposting services (Moa) said on their Birdsite account they may just switch to the paid API using their OpenCollective funds. @ummjackson @carsten the proposed rates are so high i wonder how long they could sustain it @molly0xfff Paul Tassi posted a screenshot of the current API pricing. This wasn't the pricing for the new basic api tier afak. @molly0xfff @carsten That screenshot seems to be grabbed from this 2018 TC article and regarding B2B usage: https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/19/twitter-developer-review/ Funny that you live on mastodon dot lol, but still don't get a joke. Greetings and all the best to you! Of course, there is nothing good about this change. @molly0xfff it's been a long time since the term "the cruelty is the point" has been applied to such a nonsensical decision I suppose.
@molly0xfff fewer people using and supporting twitter with traffic is more heartwarming than heartbreaking. The faster twitter goes down, the better. @max @molly0xfff I've stopped using it completely know quite a few feel the same as me now. @max @molly0xfff the remarkable lack of empathy in all of these responses cheering on the destruction of Twitter is frightening. There is a human cost to all of this, social ties and relationships that will be or are already lost, and those matter. In fact, they are the only thing that really matters. @amaditalks @molly0xfff it’s not cheering its demise so much as accepting that it’s already dead. Approaching this from an “oh no this happened” perspective doesnt convey that it’s already basically done for. Making this a weekly mourning ritual drags out the sadness of its death  @molly0xfff I reken he'll end up back-pedaling faster than a tour de France cyclist being chased by a bear
 @molly0xfff Killing the fun in the name of profit. smfh. clear demonstration of someone who has no idea what makes internet communities great. @molly0xfff That is really sad to see. My little bot was easy enough to migrate, I hope they can migrate to Mastodon too!  @molly0xfff rather than being depressed about this, one should recommend the developers of those bots to move them to the Fediverse NOW while they can still warm their users about the move. @molly0xfff of all the things musk has done to kneecap twitter this is one of the things that doesn't make me that angry I'm sad a lot of my favorite bots are probably going to die but the platform needs money to pay for the five devs who weren't fired or forced to quit :/ @molly0xfff As a musician / performer I am quite familiar with the pay-to-play system. Creators will do it until they won't. Then it collapses under its own weight... because the whole concept is upside down. @molly0xfff What really saddens me is that this is more than just entertainment: for many people, this is the gateway to the world of software development. It starts with a simple silly bot, and could grow into an entire career or a landmark project. My first dabble in 'modern' programming was making such a silly bot. I wouldn't be where I am today or know what I know today if it wasn't for that first spark. @opalium @molly0xfff When I was learning "data science", one of my first projects was building a sentiment analysis tool for tweets mentioning Spanish political parties. The project was crap, but I learned a lot. @opalium @molly0xfff The good thing is, you can build bots for Mastodon, and it is not that complicated. My friend @philippsteinkrueger is building some already @opalium @molly0xfff Every bus, weather, traffic, wordpress-to-tweet, and emergency alert bot that is maintained by an individual or nonprofit is now at risk... thats a lot of free content about to be lost.  @nathanharig @molly0xfff @opalium …that’s a lot of free content about to be “moved to the Fediverse” This, 100% For me, writing a silly bot was my gateway into Python, learning how to use an API, writing structured code. All of the above are transferable skills; it's not just a silly bot any more than 'Hello World' is. @opalium @molly0xfff there quite a number bots shadowing #Twitter to post to #Mastodon - those are affected, too, I assume? I cannot agree more. I started my programming journey with a hobby game built on the Twitter API. Learned so much, and had such fun that I made programming my career, despite having no formal education. I even landed my first job with a Twitter API example. Predictably awful moves from a predictably awful human. @molly0xfff @opalium Random outsider who agrees. My gateway drug into software development was writing a silly IRC bot in the mIRC scripting language of all things. That spark when I got it working got me hooked. From that I moved onto TCL (which I'm still fond of,) then Python and finally C#  @molly0xfff @saddestrobots @molly0xfff Yup. Debirdify is saying that:   @molly0xfff Elon will probably find out most of twitters site traffic is just bots anyway, usualy like bots and hate spreading bots. @molly0xfff @BadgerGirl Yea 💯 they will just use something like selenium or a testing tool to interface with twitter it could be the best thing ever to happen, somehow. we are all here waiting to help continue your gifting talents.  @molly0xfff seeing people go "yeah, fuck the bot developers for using the Bad Website" in the replies to this is doing a lot to remind me why i left the fediverse the first time @molly0xfff @takelgryph and they completely miss another side of the situation, namely that this change makes tools like cancel-culture way more costly to use.  @takelgryph @molly0xfff Sucks for Twitter. Some bots were great for engagement and usability and app extension. I hope the tools that make sense to migrate make the jump to the fediverse. 2013: Show your tweets on the google map. 2023: Show your toots on the open street map. Long live mashups. @molly0xfff Anyone know, or can point me to, what the rules are for the botsinspace server? Not that it makes up for the bot loss in Twitter, but if it's possible I'd like to help preserve some of their functionality. I'm guessing some can't practically be transferred over – Emoji Tetra and Emoji Snake Game come to mind – but on the other hand we already have @primes and @GustaveDore. @jgamble @molly0xfff @primes @GustaveDore Guidelines/rules are broken down on their about page: https://botsin.space/about @rpch @molly0xfff @primes @GustaveDore Sorry, I was referring to their API and restrictions therein. @molly0xfff i shut down my Twitter bots today because of this, and thankfully porting them to Mastodon was painless @molly0xfff It's so sad. I liked Twitter. I had friends there, friends who haven't made it over to Masto, or who I haven't been able to find here. They were fun, and funny.  @molly0xfff Elmo has no clue how much content and engagement is generated by bots like these. Dude is a greedy moron. @molly0xfff I wasn't familiar with the others but I followed the Frog and Toad bot before fleeing the bird site. =(   @jorijn @stux @molly0xfff @hourlykitten oh, nice; I used hourly kitten (and the lynxes one) as much for "hey, another kitten, I've just scrolled through another hour, maybe go do something useful instead?" as for the "yay kittens" part :)   @molly0xfff aw you can feel the loss in these words 💔 @molly0xfff am I missing something ? @failedLyndonLaRouchite the quoted tweet in the screenshots, about twitter shutting off free API access I find it hard to believe that even Elmo would be willing to burn 20 -40 billion dollars*, so I assume that he, or his advisors, somehow think this will increase revenue ?? *How much of Elon's personal money is at risk, worst case [bankruptcy] is unclear to me I have heard numbers from ~~20 to 40 billion, but I think Elmo himself, personally, is "only" on the hook for about 20 @failedLyndonLaRouchite @molly0xfff $20 billion is about right from what I have read, of a total cost of roughly $46 billion. The remainder was loans that are on Twitter's books and private equity. But it's more complicated because of the decline in the value of Tesla after the purchase (about half). A bankruptcy would hurt him personally, but in the long term would long free up cash flow and allow him to stop selling tsla to cover Twitter. As for fixing the revenue hole, doubtful.  @failedLyndonLaRouchite @molly0xfff Ego Must has made a hobby of burning large sums of money. how so ? Indeed, on a P/E ratio, last time I looked Tesla was still overpriced relative to Toyota etc The current stock price implies that despite increased competition in the Ecar market, that Tesla sales and market share will continue to grow at a rapid pace @molly0xfff @mtyka do you remember when developers used to do all sorts of cool projects with Twitter API back when hackdays were popular? Do you know of similar things with mastodon? @molly0xfff He did promise to get rid of all the bots I guess. Suppose he just meant the cool ones.  @molly0xfff I will miss you Every SpongeBob Frame in Order bot, you sure have made me laugh at times with some of the frames   @molly0xfff I would be so happy if hourly animals bots were to move to Mastodon, they're the only thing I miss here badly :blob_pensive:  @molly0xfff Reminds me of CraigsList. They don't (or didn't, haven't been there for years) have API access, paid or otherwise. Had a client that wanted his own posts scraped for tracking reasons and I ended up building one that used thousands of sketchy proxies from around the world. As CL blocked them, it would simply move to the next and keep going because you cannot be a public facing site (like Twitter) and shut out the entire world. @molly0xfff That's yet another shameful piece in the slow degeneration of what used to be Twitter.  @molly0xfff @brooklynmarie oh no! Can we entice Frog and Toad to come over here?  While i somewhat sympathize, every day they remain on Twitter is a day they're supporting the Nazi bar Some will undoubtedly stay & pay, at which point they will be people who funded Nazis because "change is hard" @molly0xfff I wonder if this will boost tools that use browser automation to interact with the standard web user interface to accomplish the same thing? @molly0xfff@hachyderm.io i'm really excited about this. death to corporate websites!  @molly0xfff it’s even worse because some bot apps require a Twitter logging to access the bot’s scripts, so many may lose their work too. Back it up it you can!  @molly0xfff oh crap! Does this mean my bot will go down? I've been hosting a local weather bot for years! @molly0xfff Aristocracy supports me.enterprise, not free.enterprise. This is capitalism with a twist, like when bankers and creditors squeeze more service charges for nothing changed. Or when shipping costs increase by 600% even though thousands of deliveries are travelling together. The ultimate question is always, “What are you willing to do about it?” The answer is to remember who owns the internet, and choose access wisely.   @molly0xfff but let this be a lesson for all of us whether on purpose or not, you give them the power to shut you down whenever they want to  @molly0xfff You’ve kind of got to wonder about the motivation behind all this stuff. Does he really think that these sorts of things will result in dramatic turnarounds in Twitter’s economic fortunes? If so, may I point Musk in the direction of most of capitalism online… @molly0xfff hopefully they will transition their operations to Mastodon to the extent possible @molly0xfff Nintendo Switch's ability to post screenshots to Twitter may be a casualty here too  this seems specifically targeted to kill the golden goose who wants to stay on a Twitter without Possum Every Hour, or whatever whimsical bot makes it kinda nice to check in? @molly0xfff many apps that interact with it's API had problems even before this announcement and may have been deliberate: https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/13/latest-twitter-problem-its-api-has-been-down-and-no-info-has-been-provided/ Remember photobucket? Controversial changes that happened in 2017 that broke 1000s of images on the internet by putting "off site hosting" behind a paywall. They did soften this policy a bit, but that's just one feature of the many useful features that were stripped out. |
@molly0xfff I am happy that Cross-Posts are gone 😂
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