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@jamescridland It's worth noting that not all of the Spotify-branded original shows are exclusive to Spotify. Of the ones that can be played in other players via RSS, those are most certainly podcasts. But it is my contention that when that's not the case, as it seems to be still with The Joe Rogan Experience, that then does not qualify as a podcast.
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@jamescridland @jaredwhite hi, I don't know either of you and I definitely don't have a horse in the "definition of a podcast" race but I am fascinated by your characterizing of Jared's language here as "yelling at reporters." To me it all comes across as very measured and polite, never turns personal in any way and allows for the presence of differing opinions while taking a position and holding it out of principle. Are you willing to clarify what you mean by this? @mshaw @jamescridland @jaredwhite Yeah, the "now you've calmed down and stopped shouting at reporters" bit was uncalled for. The phrase was: "tech journalists aren't doing their damn job" which doesn't really come across as measured, polite, or proportionate. I do my damn job. I do it very damn well. @muhkayoh @mshaw @jaredwhite I'd also suggest that the initial post from Jared was written very combatively, from the "Read My Lips" kick-off. Make a point, yes, but don't make it while being rude and inconsiderate, and best not to denigrate an entire profession while you do it. That's not really the best plan if you're trying to change the world. @jamescridland @mshaw @jaredwhite I see your bio says "passionate about audio." Could that passion be causing you to project a little? @jamescridland @muhkayoh @jaredwhite I see, thanks for clarifying. To be honest this strikes me as a shockingly low tolerance threshold, especially for someone in the profession of journalism (my mother the retired science museum curator gets more heated in discussing her birding newsletter), but I appreciate your honesty. @mshaw @muhkayoh @jaredwhite Thanks for your unsolicited thoughts on whether I should or shouldn't have just rolled over when someone tells me to "do my damn job". I think I'll go with my own thoughts on the matter, though! :) @jamescridland @mshaw @muhkayoh @jaredwhite maybe you should be looking into a career that's less public facing, if this discussion about technology terminology is upsetting you so much @jamescridland @jaredwhite There is a difference between Rogan and other shows, though: Rogan can only be played using Spotify, not a podcast player, while other shows, being podcasts, can be played in any podcast player. That both are on-demand audio shows makes them both “on-demand audio shows,” so they do have much in common. But the one that can only be played using Spotify isn’t a podcast. Pretty simple. |
@jaredwhite I understand where you're coming from, now you've calmed down and stopped shouting at reporters.
I think the ship has sailed though. I understand your technical definition of what you consider a podcast; but I also look at this from a consumer point of view. There is no difference between Rogan and No Agenda; no difference between a BBC Sounds show and one on Apple Podcasts. It's a piece of on-demand audio, a bit like a radio show. And that is what most people call a podcast.